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There was an earlier discussion here of youtubers seeing traffic growth but total revenue drop hinting at lower advertisement through Google as well. But "nearly eliminated" sounds like a lot.
Hmm... I cannot find it. Do you have the link?
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
> there are so few cases in California because of the measures that have been taken This is probably true, but other countries haven't locked down hard and aren't seeing a big spread. Our options aren't binary. It's not as if the only choice is "Nuke everything" or "Surrender". The US is not a very densely populated country, and density seems to have the biggest impact on the spread of this thing. We probably could d…
> This is probably true, but other countries haven't locked down hard and aren't seeing a big spread. Which countries might that be? If you're referring to South Korea, they're ahead of the game enough on testing for this to be workable (unlike us). If you're referring to anyone else, they're simply not at that point yet in the curve, but will arrive there.
Japan fits. Some cities are more restricted, but even here personal freedom remains. The emphasis is for people to choose to do the right thing.
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#263Dear HN, Support journalism. Subscribe for a month and see how it works for you. https://www.latimes.com/subscriptions/land-subscribe-evergre...
Journalists in general have been covering up stories where it not convenient for the narrative, have done hit coordinated hit pieces on members of the public and are generally a bunch of scumbags. No I won't ever be supporting these people.
Programmers in general have been, and continue to be, responsible for a lot of equally egregious things. Careful with that axe, Eugene.
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> other countries haven't locked down hard and aren't seeing a big spread Let’s be precise. Some other countries haven’t locked down hard and aren’t seeing a big spread yet . You mentioned Sweden. Here was Time a few days ago: > A head doctor at a major hospital in Sweden says the current approach will “probably end in a historical massacre.” He says healthcare workers at his hospital who have tested positive for the…
And a good contrast is Bulgaria, which shutdown early, on March 13th or so ( https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-bulgar... ), and which has a death rate on par with South Korea's. The neighbouring countries (Romania, Serbia, Greece) are also low but at least 2x that rate.
it all depends on circumstances. Romania had 400k workers returning from Italy in the past month. It is harder to contain.
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#265I’m definitely in the camp that “the cure cannot be worse than the disease” itself. Sitting in California where there are so few cases makes me wonder if the economic toll is totally worth it. Seems like we’ve used a tsunami to put out a campfire.
You are right, but at a larger level the economy itself may be a cure that kills the patient. Pursue economic growth even if it doesn't make us happier and destroys the natural environment. In that sense, the current events can be seen as the antidote to the cure that was harming the otherwise healthy patient.
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> On a per capita basis sweden isn't really more worse off than many other countries that have shutdown. This is so untrue. Norway and Denmark had initially many more cases then Sweden but since their curves flattened. As of yesterday Norway - 26 deaths / milion Sweden - 102 deaths / million Denmark - 52 deaths / milion
But there is also "Beglium - 359 deaths / million" which had early lockdowns. They started their lockdown one day before Denmark. By cherry picking countries one can chose a story to tell. I think it is too early to say if Sweden's strategy was stupid or not.
Belgiums population density is much much higher
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
But there is also "Beglium - 359 deaths / million" which had early lockdowns. They started their lockdown one day before Denmark. By cherry picking countries one can chose a story to tell. I think it is too early to say if Sweden's strategy was stupid or not.
I guess Denmark and Norway as both Nordic countries with similiar wealth and culture are as similar to Sweden as possible.
one can argue that Sweden has a larger immigrant population than those countries. Majority of deaths in Sweden are from immigrant populations. They are blamed for not following the social distancing rules that most Swedens follow day to day. Also they are poorer, live in larger families in small houses etc. and it is harder for them to follow the rules.
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#268I run a website that is monetized via Adsense and I do not see a negative impact of the Corona pandemic. What makes the situation so much different for the L.A. Times then for a website?
Do we know how much of their ad revenue is from ads on their website and ads in the paper version? From what I have seen from other places it is ads in the paper version of newspapers that are hit the most
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#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
> other countries haven't locked down hard and aren't seeing a big spread Let’s be precise. Some other countries haven’t locked down hard and aren’t seeing a big spread yet . You mentioned Sweden. Here was Time a few days ago: > A head doctor at a major hospital in Sweden says the current approach will “probably end in a historical massacre.” He says healthcare workers at his hospital who have tested positive for the…
Stockholm (the worst hit part of Sweden) has about half the deaths per capita of the state New York (26 deaths per 100k vs 56 deaths per 100k) despite Sweden having laxer restrictions. And Stockholm is generally more densely populated. So while I too am a bit skeptical of the Swedish policies it is doing pretty average on a global scale. Worse than some countries with harsh lockdown but also better than some countrie…
Is it really the best comparison to use Stockholm vs. New York state instead of Stockholm vs New York city? A city-city comparison seems more logical, no? In the latter comparison, we have NYC 2x as dense as Stockholm with a much larger population.
I don't know the particularities of Sweden, so maybe it makes more sense as you have outlined it. My apologies if that's the case!
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Could the LA Times run on your Adsense revenue?
This must be a misunderstanding. Let me rephrase my question: Why did the LA Times revenue get "nearly eliminated" while I don't see a change at all? The ads I see on my website seem to advertise all kinds of random stuff, so it is not like I am targeting a specific niche. Maybe some other HN users with websites that feature ads can chime in and tell their experience?
How likely is it that there is a tranche of higher paying ads that you were already not seeing?