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Post by jeltz »

chewz wrote: post #200
malandrew wrote: post #177

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On a per capita basis sweden isn't really more worse off than many other countries that have shutdown. It's about middle of the pack. Personal responsibility lets us have our cake and eat it too. http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

> On a per capita basis sweden isn't really more worse off than many other countries that have shutdown. This is so untrue. Norway and Denmark had initially many more cases then Sweden but since their curves flattened. As of yesterday Norway - 26 deaths / milion Sweden - 102 deaths / million Denmark - 52 deaths / milion

But there is also "Beglium - 359 deaths / million" which had early lockdowns. They started their lockdown one day before Denmark. By cherry picking countries one can chose a story to tell. I think it is too early to say if Sweden's strategy was stupid or not.

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nickthemagicman wrote: post #214
chewz wrote: post #200

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> On a per capita basis sweden isn't really more worse off than many other countries that have shutdown. This is so untrue. Norway and Denmark had initially many more cases then Sweden but since their curves flattened. As of yesterday Norway - 26 deaths / milion Sweden - 102 deaths / million Denmark - 52 deaths / milion

U.K. 166 deaths per million with a full lockdown in place

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Post by buboard »

labster wrote: post #21
DenisM wrote: post #2

In related news I have noticed that most things I search on Google don't show any ads at all. I went hunting for it and found that common household items are showing ads, but other things don't. And most certainly there is no obnoxiousness like an entire page of ads before the content.

uBlock Origin and DuckDuckGo user here, not noticing any change at all in website ads.

you will soon notice the difference in website results

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Post by afiori »

uk_programmer wrote: post #230
donohoe wrote: post #159

Dear HN, Support journalism. Subscribe for a month and see how it works for you. https://www.latimes.com/subscriptions/land-subscribe-evergre...

Journalists in general have been covering up stories where it not convenient for the narrative, have done hit coordinated hit pieces on members of the public and are generally a bunch of scumbags. No I won't ever be supporting these people.

As a supporting example you can look at how mainstream media is treating the (most recent) of sexual assault allegations moved against Biden[1].

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/joe-biden-tar...

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Post by spyder »

tempsy wrote: post #26

I’m definitely in the camp that “the cure cannot be worse than the disease” itself. Sitting in California where there are so few cases makes me wonder if the economic toll is totally worth it. Seems like we’ve used a tsunami to put out a campfire.

You can start worrying about that when the economic impact caused by the restrictions kills more people than the virus would without the restrictions. Sure, unemployment can worsen mental health and cause suicide indirectly, but those numbers must be nothing compared to the deaths would be caused by the virus without the restrictions.

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Post by lovemenot »

DuskStar wrote: post #186
CydeWeys wrote: post #163

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Some of these can be explained at least. Landscaping is very non-essential, and it's hard to maintain social distancing while doing it because the way the crews operate is it's a bunch of guys riding together in one truck between each job sites (it's not a caravan of different vehicles, one per vehicle). Additionally, my mom has been complaining about the landscapers where she lives and is angry that they're still al…

I'd say that landscaping is at least a field that has the possibility of operating while social distancing. As for bodies piling up in Detroit... While that's true, additional restrictions added today won't have any impact there. Either the previous restrictions were sufficient, in which case Detroit should be peaking soon, or they weren't sufficient and there'll be several times that number of bodies before these re…

I am in Tokyo and it's been going on longer here than many places.

Gradually increasing pressure has been the approach. It feels to me like you're right. I am willing to accept more pressure, though already burdened. It's because there's been time to adjust.

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Post by frenchman99 »

ghaff wrote: post #17
OatMilkLatte wrote: post #11

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Which is how it worked before the internet.

Yep. Maybe we move to a model where low quality/#FakeNews is free but quality costs and, presumably, you then move to a point where pooled subscriptions are a thing under that model. And it costs a substantial amount of money or you get it through a library. There's a lot less accessibility under that model, especially for those that don't really have disposable income. There's also the question of whether enough wil…

In France, where I live, there have been calls to institute a "content tax" that would be redistributed to companies that produce content. In exchange, there would be no more laws to prevent piracy. That means that torenting/reading/listening to everything would be legal whatever the means but you'd have to give the state X$/month that are then redistributed to companies based on some factors.

That could also apply to news companies or to journalists individually.

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Post by dmix »

slg wrote: post #64
makomk wrote: post #28

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About the only US publication that seems to be making decent money from subscriptions is the New York Times, and I suspect they're at least partly trading on their name. The quality of their reporting... well, let's just say that I didn't expect to see the day when Snopes ended up debunking a conspiracy theory about the US president started by the NYT: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-profit-hydroxychloro...

That isn't a debunking of the NYT's story. It is a debunking of an interpretation of the story that many made due to either news illiteracy or malicious intent. That line got shared all over the place out of context. In context it was not the focus of the piece and was instead buried in the details as a disclaimer regarding the larger issue of who profits from this drug. Snopes isn't disputing anything actually repor…

I've come across so many terrible and one sided Snopes articles. This is why all the talk of 'regulating' fake news scares me more than the fake news.

Does every slant need to make their own credibility machine now too to keep up?

(Not making a statement regarding this particular link, just personal experience in other areas I'm more invested in. NYTimes went off the partisan 24hrs news cliff long ago and are just burning old reputation at this point, it's becoming old hat.)

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