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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by seldon »

ciwchris wrote: post #473
natfriedman wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both products have a bright future and millions of users, and so we're continuing to invest in both for the foreseeable future. We're also finding ways to improve integration between them, so people can use them together if they want to. GitHub Actions reuses a bunch of code from Pipelines under the hood, for example.

After listening to episode 321 of The Azure Podcast[0] my understanding was that Azure DevOps would eventually be phased out; question begins at ~10:30 and at about ~12:00 a rough timeline of 5 years was given with guidance to select GitHub if just starting out. 0: http://azpodcast.azurewebsites.net/post/Episode-321-GitHub

Very valuable comment / insight via the podcast – thanks!

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by chacham15 »

kevindong wrote: post #385

By and far the main difference between 'Team' ($4/person/month) and 'Enterprise' ($21/person/month) is SSO/LDAP [0]. The SSO tax is real [1]. [0]: https://github.com/pricing [1]: https://sso.tax/

IMO the biggest difference between the two is self-hosting which makes sense for the price difference.

Even setting that aside, SSO is a feature which is very meaningful to businesses and relatively meaningless to individuals. Because of that its often used to differentiate between the customers. This differentiation results in individuals getting a discount at the expense of the businesses; which to me makes sense.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by ksec »

ctrlaltdel121 wrote: post #422
SrslyJosh wrote: post #381

Hi Nat, ICE kidnaps children and forces their captives to live in unsafe, inhumane, over-crowded conditions in the middle of a global pandemic. Why do you work with them?

Github donated the money ICE paid them to charities that are directly counteracting the bad things ICE is doing. Isn't that clearly better than just forcing ICE to install Gitlab?

Not from US and dont know the topic in depth, but I like this idea that instead of not engaging with your government, you earn their money and actively help / fund action to reverse its course. After all that is or should be how is works in a democratic country.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by euroq »

geofft wrote: post #446
DennisAleynikov wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

pretty off topic to bring up customers of a lightbulb factory to shame them for selling headlamps to tanks...

All right, point taken - this is a politically incorrect discussion and we should be self-censoring ourselves.

No, your comment just doesn't make sense. Lightbulb manufacturers are not responsible for wars because tanks have lightbulbs in them, and GitHub is not responsible for all the harm in the world either because some bad actors use GitHub.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by whalesalad »

klinskyc wrote: post #3

Seems like Github is feeling heat from GitLab/BitBucket. I guess the calculation here is that the enterprise contracts are where all the money is, and keeping smaller customers on GitHub is worth the price cut?

I guarantee that this move had absolutely nothing to do with competitors and everything to do with Microsofts new rise to dominance. Coding is going to be the next blue-collar job, they are positioning themselves to do well when we reach that inflection point.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by colinmcdonald22 »

Shank wrote: post #457
danpalmer wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy extra build minutes. The missing 7k minutes would cost $56, which means teams with 12 or more devs who are using the full 10k minutes will be better off. Smaller teams using more than 10k will be worse off. It’s probably great news for the vast majority of teams.

This is only true if you're using exclusively Linux runners. If those same 7,000 minutes are on macOS, you're paying $560. On Windows, $112. At my company, we definitely use a mixture of all three for various things, so this will sting, with varying degrees, depending on how often we build new iOS, Mac, and Windows releases.

Builds on macOS and Windows already depleted your minutes credit with a multiplier (Windows 2x, macOS 10x), so this shouldn't change anything

https://help.github.com/en/github/setting-up-and-managing-bi...

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by geofft »

euroq wrote: post #494
geofft wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All right, point taken - this is a politically incorrect discussion and we should be self-censoring ourselves.

No, your comment just doesn't make sense. Lightbulb manufacturers are not responsible for wars because tanks have lightbulbs in them, and GitHub is not responsible for all the harm in the world either because some bad actors use GitHub.

Sorry, I can't even discuss this with you. I rather disagree - this is what the whole "military-industrial complex" is about - but it's off-topic and forbidden.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by efrafa »

kevindong wrote: post #385

By and far the main difference between 'Team' ($4/person/month) and 'Enterprise' ($21/person/month) is SSO/LDAP [0]. The SSO tax is real [1]. [0]: https://github.com/pricing [1]: https://sso.tax/

I get where you are comming from, but from sales perspective, charging extra for SSO makes total sense.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by Ayesh »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #75
natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

I'd like to share feedback on GitHub Actions. Tried it out, and the learning curve was too much. I want to use stuff I already know -- e.g., write a Dockerfile, and then GH could run it on PR builds. The "workflow" concept didn't land for me, and I hope you consider a more generalized, open-source approach to running arbitrary scripts in response to PRs being opened, merges to master, etc.

Coming from Travis CI and GitLab CI, GitHub Actions was very intuitive and I had it running in the very first take.

The concept of actions is new, but it is brilliant compared to traditional approach of doing everything inside the CI jobs, or bring your own docker images.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by flyingswift »

GordonS wrote: post #182
natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

Hi Nat, with Microsoft now owning Github, I'm really curious to know what the future holds for both Azure DevOps and Github? I'm a user of both - Github for OSS, and Azure DevOps for private work. IMO, these areas are where they are best suited - pipelines in particular are really powerful in Azure DevOps, and user/permission management, AAD integration and integration with build agents are all excellent. I really li…

As a former member of Azure DevOps, I've heard from my colleagues that the Work Items and Agile features are totally in maintenance mode
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