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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by aroch »

oefrha wrote: post #166
masklinn wrote: post #158

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I still get a Pro option when going to https://github.com/account/upgrade from a free account, and it seems to match Teams, here's the blurb: > Required reviewers in private repos > Protected branches in private repos > Repository insights in private repos > Wikis in private repos > Pages in private repos > Code owners in private repos > 3,000 minutes for GitHub Actions > 2GB of storage for packages

Thanks for the confirmation, that’s what I figured. It would be nice to see this laid out somewhere public, preferably the pricing page, not gated behind a free account.

It's on the FAQ at the bottom of the announcement blog: https://help.github.com/en/github/getting-started-with-githu...

Though it does require a bit of between the line reading

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by toyg »

vbezhenar wrote: post #246
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #209

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Transparency can give bad actors a way to game and workaround the system.

We're living with transparent juridical system and it works fine. Imagine that you could be thrown to jail without explaining a reason. That would be outrageous.

> transparent juridical system and it works fine

Yeah, criminals are always arrested and convicted. /s

It's a balance. With something as essential as human rights and personal freedom, people (tend to) err on the safe side. Online moderation can err on the other side, since consequences are relatively modest. If you get banned on GH, move to Gitlab or host your own, that's hardly a tragedy.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by [deleted] »

ebrescia wrote: post #175
CreepGin wrote: post #50

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Thanks for doing this. Is this effective immediately now? I tried to downgrade to free just now but it's giving me a giant list of features I'd lose if I continue. Also any change to Data pack pricing for LFS Data? Due to the on-going Pandemic, I've been trying to cut business costs left and right. Github Team was one of those I wanted to cut but it's also so important that I couldn't decide easily. So thanks again f…

It is effective immediately. There is a full FAQ here: https://help.github.com/en/github/getting-started-with-githu... Essentially, "Pro" = Team - the only difference is whether it is an individual account or an organizational account. We'll work to clarify this on the site. No, there has not been any change to the data pack pricing for LFS data. Glad this will help you continue building on GitHub!

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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by GordonS »

zerkten wrote: post #241
GordonS wrote: post #186

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Agree strongly with this. If a repo is public and gets banned, I think it's reasonable to expect that the community can know why , regardless of the rights or wrongs of the decision.

It seems reasonable to expect this, but it can fall down in practice for several reasons: * Sometimes legal counsel provide advice that there should be no further response to the individual or organization. Often technical people don't understand this situation, but it doesn't change the merits of the legal advice. In smaller organizations a leader might take a chance in further engagement, if they think it's helpful…

This is a well thought out response with factors that weren't obvious to me - thanks.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by toyg »

ascendantlogic wrote: post #223
muglug wrote: post #160

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GitHub absolutely does compete for on-prem installation. Source: we use an on-prem installation at Vimeo

Not at the $0 price point they don't.

I can see that happening at some point... as long as you host in Azure.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by natfriedman »

GordonS wrote: post #182
natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

Hi Nat, with Microsoft now owning Github, I'm really curious to know what the future holds for both Azure DevOps and Github? I'm a user of both - Github for OSS, and Azure DevOps for private work. IMO, these areas are where they are best suited - pipelines in particular are really powerful in Azure DevOps, and user/permission management, AAD integration and integration with build agents are all excellent. I really li…

Both products have a bright future and millions of users, and so we're continuing to invest in both for the foreseeable future. We're also finding ways to improve integration between them, so people can use them together if they want to. GitHub Actions reuses a bunch of code from Pipelines under the hood, for example.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by res0nat0r »

sathyabhat wrote: post #251
diminish wrote: post #234

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Do you plan to make github enterprise available for free on their own premises for teams?

This has been possible since long, what am I missing?

I'm assuming he means on-prem GHE, for free, which I would doubt since that would eat away their revenue.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by tptacek »

Saaster wrote: post #254
tptacek wrote: post #231

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It's a little odd to say something is not a "net security benefit" and, in the next sentence, make a powerful case for it as a net security benefit. SSO is probably the most important organization security tool there is, and a survey of tech company CSOs will average it in the top 3, if not the top 2 technology acquisitions most would make at a new firm (this is a question I've actually surveyed).

SSO is a great benefit to the customers, with real tangible security and management benefits. I'm however speaking from the point of view of the service provider (the SaaS app) and about SAML in particular. I feel that the addition of SAML into a given service is a net-negative from that service's security point of view. It's a large additional complex attack surface, many open source SAML libraries that I've reviewe…

I'm a security researcher with a minor focus in SSO libraries, working on OIDC and SAML right now. I've discovered and reported some of the kinds of issues you're referring to. Both OIDC and SAML are fraught in implementation, but so are all login features.

Meanwhile: we're discussing Github, not a random cat-sharing startup. Github has one of the larger security teams in the industry. The parties implicated in Github SAML are Github, Okta, and Github customers, who do not actually have to implement SAML. Github SAML is not in fact a net-negative for security.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by thramp »

tptacek wrote: post #191
thramp wrote: post #35

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This is a great change! One request: I wish that SAML was not an enterprise feature. SAML ought be a basic security feature like 2FA—it's especially valuable for open source teams who might use a mixture of services, and an easily accessible and cheap SSO solution would go a long way in raising the security bar for all teams, not just open source teams.

Since they just said they were waiting for Enterprise revenue to reach a level where they could free the core product, and since SAML is an important driver of Enterprise upgrades (I've seen it happen), I wouldn't hold your breath. Now that the core Pro features are free, I wonder if Rob will update sso.tax to set Github to :inf:.

I was _just_ thinking of https://latacora.micro.blog/2020/03/12/the-soc-starting.html and https://sso.tax/ as I was writing my comment!
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