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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by koheripbal »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #275
underdeserver wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More likely, ammo in a potential legal battle between GitHub and the banned party.

So far it's been mostly small / independent developers or organizations that were banned, and Github has Microsoft behind it, a $125bn / year revenue company with a legal team 1,500 strong ( https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2019/12/02/how-brad... ). I don't think fear of litigation is the issue.

The very first thing a corporate lawyer does is proactively prevent litigation through protective policies that specifically do NOT emphasize transparency.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by ghshephard »

chubot wrote: post #230
ghshephard wrote: post #183

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Speaking as someone who worked at Netscape during the 90s, your comparison is missing on a lot of fronts. First, Microsoft was evil back then because they didn't just rely on excellent pricing and features (both of which they had) - but also because they leveraged their monopoly in one market (desktop operating systems) to prevent competition in adjacent markets (browsers). I think it's difficult for people to believ…

> First, Microsoft was evil back then because they didn't just rely on excellent pricing and features (both of which they had) - but also because they leveraged their monopoly in one market (desktop operating systems) to prevent competition in adjacent markets (browsers). Isn't that exactly what's happening here? Gitlab competes with Github, but doesn't have the equivalent of Azure to subsidize it with. Azure compete…

The question of whether you are a monopoly is really important. Once effectively everybody is using your platform, there are restrictions on your behavior. Being the category leader is very different than being a monopoly.

And, note, that there is, and obviously wouldn't be, a law against a monopolist giving it's monopoly product away for free - That's kind of like anti-leveraging.

Look at this from a different perspective - free git hosting for teams is awesome. This is unquestionably a positive thing that Microsoft has done. It's good to be a bit cynical, but not to be so cynical that we put blinders on to the wonderful resources that are now being made gratis.

And, as long as they don't try and put some crappy "Microsoft only" extension onto their platform so that the vanilla git doesn't support all of it's capabilities - it hasn't taken that dark step into "extend." Once they do that, then it's worth a post to HN about Microsoft's Embrace-Extend-Extinguish dark past.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by roryokane »

Wehrdo wrote: post #316

I hope developers still default to making their personal repos public after this change. One of the fringe benefits of GitHub is the ability to search across the entire site for uses of obscure, poorly-documented APIs. Defaulting to most repos becoming private would greatly hinder this.

I agree that’s a potential concern, but you’re worrying about it a year too late. Individual developers have been able to make repos private on the free plan since January 2019: https://github.blog/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/. This announcement only affects the cost of private repos for teams of collaborators.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by jpomykala »

natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

Hey how about introducing a function to create a branches from issues

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by acdha »

DenisM wrote: post #464

Bitbucket is in trouble now. With no more paying customer for Git and no support for Mercurial what are they going to do?

They lost that battle a decade ago. I would previously have suggested some kind of enterprise devops offering pairing with their other services but Microsoft will probably get there faster and better.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by tomschlick »

grinich wrote: post #330
staticassertion wrote: post #215

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I'm curious why you need the SOC2 report itself instead of some sort of signed statement of compliance. The details of the SOC2 don't seem like they should be important?

When you're going through SOC-2, your auditor will ask for the SOC-2 report of each critical vendor.

If you're at that level of auditing I'd expect your company has enough cash to fork over for GHE.
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