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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by adverbly »

mythz wrote: post #51

Great news for everyone bar startups competing with them as it looks like Microsoft is turning their multi-billion acquisition of GitHub into a loss leader to get as many devs using their platform as possible, no doubt to flex seamless integrations into Azure which looks like they're executing exceptionally well with their acquisitions & new feature giveaways. From the side-lines it looks like they're slowly becoming…

> Great news for everyone

Not true.

The new Team plan will be a downgrade in specs from the old teams plan. For example it only includes 3000 Github Action minutes. The old plan included 10000. The next plan up would be > 2 * old price.

Source: https://github.com/pricing vs http://web.archive.org/web/20200406010552/https://github.com...

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by freyfogle »

natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

I currently pay for a Github Silver plan annually ($600). When I try to downgrade to Free I get a message (in red) "You will no longer be able to access your private repositories or create new private repositories."

How do I downgrade without losing all my private repos.

Thank you!

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by floatingatoll »

freyfogle wrote: post #292
natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

I currently pay for a Github Silver plan annually ($600). When I try to downgrade to Free I get a message (in red) "You will no longer be able to access your private repositories or create new private repositories." How do I downgrade without losing all my private repos. Thank you!

When you emailed this question to GitHub Support, how did they respond?

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by recursive »

cactus2093 wrote: post #242
tobinfricke wrote: post #92

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I'd never heard of SAML before. Is it like a more complicated version of OAuth?

SAML is pretty simple, it just uses XML which I think turns people off to it by default. I've implemented it once and I feel like I have a decent handle on what it is (though maybe I've just avoided the worst edge cases). OAuth is way more complex, I've used it countless times and still get confused by it. It has more complex patterns like having a separate resource server and authentication server, it's used for mor…

> SAML is pretty simple, it just uses XML which I think turns people off to it by default. I've implemented it once and I feel like I have a decent handle on what it is (though maybe I've just avoided the worst edge cases).

I once tried to implement it, and found that the specification was spread across ~500 pages of dense PDFs. I find it to be complex.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by cf_ »

jbergstroem wrote: post #167
LifeIsBio wrote: post #2

This is pretty cool. Anyone have thoughts as to _why_ they’re making this move?

I'll bite: They are shifting profits to CI and service landscape. I paid for 8 seats (previous: $64, now: $32) which gave me 10 000 included CI minutes (now: 3 000). I was just at that limit. Its surprisingly hard to find what the cost per minute is after that, but I guess I can check back in a month and see what my spending ends up at. I'm sure they have enough info about onboarding and unit economics to see how it…

I think it depends on OS (Linux is $0.008/Minute, but macOS is a lot more - like $0.08): https://github.com/features/actions (scroll to the bottom)

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by Nullabillity »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #208
Nullabillity wrote: post #189

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Good point. For anyone using the Student Developer Pack (or any other similar student offer), ask yourself this: Do you really want to become reliant on software and services that will cost you ~$70k/year as soon as you graduate? Well, unless they decide to switch market or shut down, in which case you're hosed no matter how much you're willing to pay.

C'mon, that's an unnecessarily cynical take. The offers in the student pack are here: https://education.github.com/pack You can see that there's a lot of overlap and that these offers cover very broad sections of the industry. This gives students the opportunity to explore and develop immediately employable skillsets without impacting their already limited budgets.

> You can see that there's a lot of overlap and that these offers cover very broad sections of the industry.

True, but that applies as much to their $200k figure.

> This gives students the opportunity to explore and develop immediately employable skillsets without impacting their already limited budgets.

The stuff that's worth using has free or cheaper alternatives anyway.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by pknopf »

natfriedman wrote: post #266
GordonS wrote: post #182

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Hi Nat, with Microsoft now owning Github, I'm really curious to know what the future holds for both Azure DevOps and Github? I'm a user of both - Github for OSS, and Azure DevOps for private work. IMO, these areas are where they are best suited - pipelines in particular are really powerful in Azure DevOps, and user/permission management, AAD integration and integration with build agents are all excellent. I really li…

Both products have a bright future and millions of users, and so we're continuing to invest in both for the foreseeable future. We're also finding ways to improve integration between them, so people can use them together if they want to. GitHub Actions reuses a bunch of code from Pipelines under the hood, for example.

I get that you guys want to say that publicly, but let's be real. No company would invest a massive amount of money in a duplicate product. One product will eventually starve.

I guess it is up to us to guess. Anyone?

I see GitHub being the unmovable giant here. Microsoft is publicly developing on it, as opposed to Azure Dev Ops. It has a very large mind-share. More developers are willing to use it without having the Microsoft stigma that some nix people feel.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by benzible »

ebrescia wrote: post #125
angrygoat wrote: post #72

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It looks like pro accounts have vanished? I can't find them anywhere; I assume we just won't be charged from here on out?

Hi, I'm Erica, GitHub's COO. Pricing for Pro Accounts has been changed to $4/mo.It includes 2GB of Packages storage, 10 GB of data transfer and email support. You can downgrade your account to the Free tier if you'd like by following these steps: https://help.github.com/en/github/setting-up-and-managing-bi... A full FAQ on pricing is available here: https://help.github.com/en/github/getting-started-with-githu... Hope…

I just tried downgrading from my Pro Account and got:

"Your account can not be downgraded yet because one or more of your private repositories is over the collaborator limit for the free plan. Please make sure that each of the private repositories owned by your account below has 3 or fewer collaborators before downgrading your account. Questions? Please contact support@github.com."

Am I missing something or is this not implemented yet?

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by eastbayjake »

harha wrote: post #93
vermorel wrote: post #46

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Agreed. SAML even makes sense for solo dev.

could you elaborate further with use-cases?

As a business customer of a SaaS product, being able to revoke any employee's access to the SaaS tool if they are terminated. (Imagine how hard this would be for e.g. the SaaS tool your company uses to view financial reporting if it required every user at your company to create their own username/password. If you wanted to prevent someone from "going rogue" during termination, you would need to have an admin remove their account access prior to termination -- and do it on every SaaS product that person used. With SSO you revoke their access and everything gets locked out.

Source: Watching an alcoholic CTO get fired by the board and taking the startup's hosted Mongo database hostage

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