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Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Completely agree. I'm not exactly an apple fanboy, but I do love my iPad, and there isn't yet a competitor's device I'd want to replace it with (although I'm hoping BlackBerry's will change that). If he had come out and given all the ways that the iPad 2 is better than the iPad, I'd have been impressed. But spending half the time criticising competitors just came across as the kind of tacky tactic that really shouldn…

This has been happening for quite some time. One of the earnings call last year was more of Android-bashing than a talk about Apple's successes. EDIT: I believe it was Steve doing the talk back then too.

That's how it was reported but if you listen to the actual call it was about 1-2 minutes squarely aimed at the Samsung Galaxy Tab which had just been released.

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There's a difference between over-hyping and telling lies.

I saw nothing that constituted a "lie." This is an article from an obvious Android fan (looking at Seth Weintraub's other articles, it's all Google, all the time) who didn't like that Apple took some shots at competing tablets. I have to agree with one of the comments to the article that says Android fanboys are as bad as Apple fanboys, maybe even worse because they act like the fact Android is open source is some gr…

I saw nothing that constituted a "lie."

Here's the list from the article since you must have skipped over them:

1) A mistranslation from Korean that puts a competitor in a bad light.

2) "First dual core tablet to ship in volume."

3) ">90% market share".

#1 could arguably just a rehash of old stuff, "sorry guys I'm a bit out of date". #2 and #3 are complete fabrications.

The rest of the article was just nitpicking.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Lot of nitpicks and to be expected framing/number fudging by Steve, but straight up misquoting the Samsung rep was very odd. That had been widely corrected, so either Apple did not research their presentation (unlikely) or just knowingly lied (yuck).

The other option is they knew the quote was wrong but the substance was accurate. The Galaxy Tab hasn't really taken off has it?

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At the end of the day, none of Jobs' points or of Weintraub's rebuttals have any bearing on how the quality of the product. It's really just a bunch of bickering. I just want to see the new gadgets and what they're capable of, not how much one company can one-up each other.

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First, I don't think this is really a reality distortion field. Yes, he does do it, but I think this is simply marketing. Let's clarify a little what might be going on, and I don't think that many of the commentators here are thinking this way. Have you noticed that a lot of the Apple advertising and marketing is directed towards those that already have apple products? Obviously people who favor android devices are g…

Have you noticed that a lot of the Apple advertising and marketing is directed towards those that already have apple products?

It's an interesting point. If various analysts are correct, most of the recent purchases of Apple products have simply been existing customers moving up to the newest device, not new customers coming into the fold.

I overheard a very telling conversation today where a colleague was lamenting that his teenage daughter wanted to get rid of her new iPhone 4 and get a "Droid" because all her friends were doing the same.

2) Figure out why it is working for Apple: can it work for you?

Apple seems to have retention down to a Science. For the most part, people who buy Apple stuff will continue to buy Apple stuff. If some of the typical pro-Apple opinions in this thread are any indication, people will overlook almost any amount of flaws in Apple so that they can continue buying Apple stuff. That's a powerful bit of marketing, but it may not be instructive to try and analyze and duplicate since most of that effect seems tied to Steve Jobs himself (we'll see if his transition out of the company changes this, even in the dark ages while he was gone there were still loyalists who clung to their ugly, underspecced and out-of-date Performas...heck there are still people who use their Amiga 500s daily).

It may be more instructive to see how:

1) Apple is losing non-computery people that they managed to bring into the fold, what's going wrong (based on the conversation I heard)?

2) How can they reverse this?

3) Where are they still growing, what are they doing right?

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I can't speak for design, I know most people think that Thinkpads look ugly, however regarding build quality I own a Thinkpad T500 I bought 2 years ago and I have: +Dropped it way more times than I can count, usually while closed and turned off but also while it was running, and while it was open (both running and not). +Totally stood on it, putting my full weight on the closed lid many times. +Left it running in my…

I will tell you the build that Apple has: > +Dropped it way more times than I can count, usually while closed and turned off but also while it was running, and while it was open (both running and not). Yes >+Totally stood on it, putting my full weight on the closed lid many times. Why on earth would I do that? >+Left it running in my closed backpack for almost an hour (twice). More times than I can count. My MBP has…

Ok. I am new here but I do know the reason why this was down voted. Could you please explain?

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Depends on which group you look into. The social level who can afford to buy apple? Most likely not that many. Those who can't afford to change the laptop if it breaks (or who would find this to be a major expense)? Yeah, I can believe that.

The social level who can afford to buy apple? A Toughbook costs more than a comparable MBP.

And for the price of a MBP you can buy 2-3 "normal" laptops.

I.e. the low-end budget stuff that ain't pretty, may have a whiny fan, but still gets the job done.

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Asus has superior build quality to Apple (measured in failures within 3 years; Apple is around 17% and Asus is 15%, as I recall), lots of original designs (they started the netbook craze, and have a line of laptops made with bamboo), and they don't look half bad either. The U36Jc is completely comparable spec-wise to the 13-inch macbook pro, except for lacking an optical drive, while costing $200 less. It also has be…

Happened to stumble on Engadget's review of the U36Jc: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/asus-u36jc-review/ "The company has an extremely great handle on what components are needed to make a really awesome thin and light machine – standard voltage processors, a dedicated GPU, a good sized battery, lots of ports – but it consistently forgets to pay attention to the small details. And in the case of the U36Jc, those d…

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Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Asus has superior build quality to Apple (measured in failures within 3 years; Apple is around 17% and Asus is 15%, as I recall), lots of original designs (they started the netbook craze, and have a line of laptops made with bamboo), and they don't look half bad either. The U36Jc is completely comparable spec-wise to the 13-inch macbook pro, except for lacking an optical drive, while costing $200 less. It also has be…

Asus has superior build quality to Apple (measured in failures within 3 years; Apple is around 17% and Asus is 15%, as I recall) Where did you get these numbers? It certainly doesn't square with my own, pure anecdotal, experience with Asus and Apple. Is anyone actually publishing these numbers? Are laptop makers required to?

People who offer generic after-market warranties have the stats. http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_laptop_reliab...
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