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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by alecbenzer »

rvz wrote: post #118
roland35 wrote: post #25

This is great news! I've always had my repositories spread across GitHub, gitlab, and bitbucket depending on what size group or features I needed but this helps centralize everything to GitHub. That is probably their goal!

> this helps centralize everything to GitHub. Oh dear. That doesn't really sound like a good idea in the long term. So once you place all your projects/repositories on a third party git service like Github and it goes down, what can you do to push that critical change? Might be no big deal for personal projects but unacceptable for big business and open source orgs. You might as well call the CEO of GitHub for suppor…

> A better way is to self-host...

Even ignoring the higher cost to set up, are you sure your self-hosted solution will have better uptime? Are you sure you'll be able to get things up and running faster when it does go down than GitHub will when GitHub goes down?

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by troughway »

mythz wrote: post #51

Great news for everyone bar startups competing with them as it looks like Microsoft is turning their multi-billion acquisition of GitHub into a loss leader to get as many devs using their platform as possible, no doubt to flex seamless integrations into Azure which looks like they're executing exceptionally well with their acquisitions & new feature giveaways. From the side-lines it looks like they're slowly becoming…

Blazor is slow to start but I think long-term will be a game changer.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by pkamb »

oefrha wrote: post #132
natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

First of all, thank you, this is great news. That said, the news made me wonder what exactly I’m still paying for with my personal Pro account. I went to the pricing page https://github.com/pricing and it seems Pro isn’t even listed anymore? And the Billings page https://github.com/settings/billing says “Pages, Wikis, protected branches and more for Pro developers” without any further explanation or link to docs expl…

I went to go downgrade to the free plan and noticed that GitHub Pages static sites served from Private repos still require payment. That will keep me on $4/month for now.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by mythz »

jdminhbg wrote: post #95
mythz wrote: post #51

Great news for everyone bar startups competing with them as it looks like Microsoft is turning their multi-billion acquisition of GitHub into a loss leader to get as many devs using their platform as possible, no doubt to flex seamless integrations into Azure which looks like they're executing exceptionally well with their acquisitions & new feature giveaways. From the side-lines it looks like they're slowly becoming…

I'm not sure it's great news for those of us who are smaller users of Github. You would expect Github to concentrate even harder on enterprise users now that we're not paying anymore. I'm not complaining; MS should point GH at where the money is and there is competition you can switch to. I'm just not excited to save a few bucks a month given what will likely change.

Unlikely, freemium users would make up the overwhelming majority which has been getting more value & less reasons to need a paid subscription with each release since their acquisition of which I've yet to see any signs of neglecting their existing user base.

IMO Microsoft views GitHub's user base as potential Azure leads and Cloud computing as the current & future lucrative computing utilization business model who has been pulling out all stops to grow Azure as fast as possible.

They're fortunately rich & big enough that they don't need every one of their business to maximize their profits and are more than happy to leverage the synergies in their different assets to funnel more business into Azure.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by judge2020 »

captn3m0 wrote: post #120
oxalorg wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Nat, thank you so much for this! We're a small team from India and we love Github but were always conflicted due to the pricing. The new flat price of $4/user seems perfect for us. I've already moved one private repo to our org account. Thanks again ^_^

Just curious what motivates you to pick the $4 plan over free? None of the features there are really deal-breaking for most orgs. - Required reviewers - 3,000 Actions minutes/month (Free for public repositories) - 2GB of GitHub Packages storage (Free for public repositories) - Code owners

Kind of off-topic but for $4/user/month only 2gb of private GH packages storage is laughably low, and the pay-as-you-go pricing model is pretty expensive if you want to use it for docker images.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by chocolatkey »

irrational wrote: post #127
cjdu wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I cannot believe that GCP and AWS are so asleep at the wheel either. If I were them I would literally be throwing money at some of the GitHub folks to have them fix AWS or GCP. And it was should have been rather obvious when GitHub released the beta of Actions a few years ago. Actions remains the most important thing GitHub has done, ever, in my opinion. It might take a few more years for people to fully real…

What is Actions?

https://github.com/features/actions

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by cactus2093 »

Saaster wrote: post #88
thramp wrote: post #35

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This is a great change! One request: I wish that SAML was not an enterprise feature. SAML ought be a basic security feature like 2FA—it's especially valuable for open source teams who might use a mixture of services, and an easily accessible and cheap SSO solution would go a long way in raising the security bar for all teams, not just open source teams.

SAML (and 2FA to a lesser extent) comes with some serious support burdens on the companies offering it. There's a long tail of more or less broken SAML implementations on both the service and identity provider sides, provisioning issues, configuration issues, "Sally can't login on Tuesdays" issues, duplicated slightly-inconsistent data in IdP and Service side records issues... If you as a SaaS provider outsource your…

This doesn't make sense. Login of any kind can be a tricky problem, you need to handle passwords, rate limits, email verification, password resets, etc. In most popular web frameworks there are libraries you can drop-in that handle all of this for you (like Devise in rails). There are drop-in libraries like OmniAuth (again for ruby/rails) to make handling multiple types of Oauth login simple.

The same could clearly be done for SAML (and I've even implemented SAML and SCIM auth and user management for Okta before in an app, it's not difficult).

The problem is that the only organizations that would make this single issue of SSO support a deal-breaker are bigger companies who can afford to be upsold, so everyone treats this as an up-sell feature. This comes at the expense of the smaller companies, who can't afford to care as much about security. The industry should be making things secure by default as much as possible, and there's a big gap here in what basically every SAAS company is doing.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by alecbenzer »

samirsd wrote: post #84

what is the font for the text in the upper left that says "The GitHub Blog"? Looks cool.

Looks like it's one of these:

  .alt-mono-font {
      font-family: SFMono-Regular,Consolas,Liberation Mono,Menlo,Courier,monospace;
  }
If you find yourself wondering this a lot, https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/whatfont/jabopobgc... is a fun extnesion.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by gknoy »

kube-system wrote: post #111
tobinfricke wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd never heard of SAML before. Is it like a more complicated version of OAuth?

SAML has been around longer and handles AuthN and AuthZ OAuth only does AuthZ. I've always found OAuth more complicated because you have to combine it with other technologies to get AuthN

For those like me who had never heard these abbreviations:

AuthN: Authentication (who you are) AuthZ: Authorization (what you are allowed to do)

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by alecbenzer »

microdrum wrote: post #101

So it will be free until the competition dies, and then it will be expensive? Like... everything MSFT and GOOG have ever done? Great.

When has GOOG made something expensive once the competition died?

I guess for that matter... also when has MSFT? I buy they have, but not aware of any examples of the top of my head.

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