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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by kube-system »

tobinfricke wrote: post #92
thramp wrote: post #35

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This is a great change! One request: I wish that SAML was not an enterprise feature. SAML ought be a basic security feature like 2FA—it's especially valuable for open source teams who might use a mixture of services, and an easily accessible and cheap SSO solution would go a long way in raising the security bar for all teams, not just open source teams.

I'd never heard of SAML before. Is it like a more complicated version of OAuth?

SAML has been around longer and handles AuthN and AuthZ

OAuth only does AuthZ. I've always found OAuth more complicated because you have to combine it with other technologies to get AuthN

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by cjdu »

mythz wrote: post #51

Great news for everyone bar startups competing with them as it looks like Microsoft is turning their multi-billion acquisition of GitHub into a loss leader to get as many devs using their platform as possible, no doubt to flex seamless integrations into Azure which looks like they're executing exceptionally well with their acquisitions & new feature giveaways. From the side-lines it looks like they're slowly becoming…

Agreed. I cannot believe that GCP and AWS are so asleep at the wheel either. If I were them I would literally be throwing money at some of the GitHub folks to have them fix AWS or GCP.

And it was should have been rather obvious when GitHub released the beta of Actions a few years ago. Actions remains the most important thing GitHub has done, ever, in my opinion. It might take a few more years for people to fully realize what this could be. Hope GitHub doesn't screw it up!

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by jedberg »

mythz wrote: post #51

Great news for everyone bar startups competing with them as it looks like Microsoft is turning their multi-billion acquisition of GitHub into a loss leader to get as many devs using their platform as possible, no doubt to flex seamless integrations into Azure which looks like they're executing exceptionally well with their acquisitions & new feature giveaways. From the side-lines it looks like they're slowly becoming…

So far Microsoft isn’t taking customers away from AWS. They’re just expanding the total market.

But I do wonder if AWS will try to buy gitlab.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by [deleted] »

yingw787 wrote: post #36
markdog12 wrote: post #14

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> whether GitHub sees this is a first-to-market play of some sort Could be a response to GitLab, which had a similar offering for years, including unlimited free private repos.

Maybe, but this move looks to flatten GitHub pricing down to two tiers: enterprise and free, while GitLab has four pricing tiers and the enterprise feature offering doesn't seem to be there (Gold doesn't look too enterprise-y at first glance).

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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by binarytox1n »

sneak wrote: post #81
yingw787 wrote: post #8

Well, this is amazing! I never would have thought the Microsoft acquisition would have these kinds of results! Congrats to Nat and the GitHub team (and by extension Microsoft) for making this possible! I wonder whether this is a result of market conditions, or whether GitHub sees this is a first-to-market play of some sort, or whether it's something else. I hate to be a cynic given how much good Microsoft + GitHub ha…

I feel like anyone who lived through the 90s could have expected "these kinds of results". Git is open source and widely supported, which doesn't benefit Microsoft. By causing GitHub-specific features to be an essential part of a "modern" or "industry standard" git workflow, they can capture more marketshare/attention, and cause alternatives to be sidelined. This requires removing all friction to entering the proprie…

I might buy the conspiracy theory except for the fact that Azure DevOps exists and provides all the features of GitHub already with none of the restrictions you've mentioned except that you pay for the service.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by pubby »

Operyl wrote: post #78
pubby wrote: post #67

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Hey Nat glad to see you here. A few days ago one of the biggest team collaborative games (Space Station 13) got banned on GitHub without a public explanation from GitHub staff, but some suspect it was because the code contained bad words and slurs. Do you know if this is why the project was banned, and will these new private team repos be subject to the same terms/rules?

SS13 got banned? Damn, I loved reading that old DM codebase every once in a while. Where have you guys migrated to, GitLab?

I only follow it loosely but I believe most are planning to move to GitLab if their repos aren't unbanned.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by rvz »

roland35 wrote: post #25

This is great news! I've always had my repositories spread across GitHub, gitlab, and bitbucket depending on what size group or features I needed but this helps centralize everything to GitHub. That is probably their goal!

> this helps centralize everything to GitHub.

Oh dear. That doesn't really sound like a good idea in the long term.

So once you place all your projects/repositories on a third party git service like Github and it goes down, what can you do to push that critical change? Might be no big deal for personal projects but unacceptable for big business and open source orgs.

You might as well call the CEO of GitHub for support. A better way is to self-host...

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by [deleted] »

vptr wrote: post #66
thramp wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great change! One request: I wish that SAML was not an enterprise feature. SAML ought be a basic security feature like 2FA—it's especially valuable for open source teams who might use a mixture of services, and an easily accessible and cheap SSO solution would go a long way in raising the security bar for all teams, not just open source teams.

Agree. I sell simple sass product myself and offer SAML to everyone. I view security as a basic right, not something to be used to extract more money for. Charging for additional features is ok, charging for keeping your account more secure is just plain wrong.

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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by captn3m0 »

oxalorg wrote: post #106
natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

Hey Nat, thank you so much for this! We're a small team from India and we love Github but were always conflicted due to the pricing. The new flat price of $4/user seems perfect for us. I've already moved one private repo to our org account. Thanks again ^_^

Just curious what motivates you to pick the $4 plan over free? None of the features there are really deal-breaking for most orgs.

- Required reviewers

- 3,000 Actions minutes/month (Free for public repositories)

- 2GB of GitHub Packages storage (Free for public repositories)

- Code owners

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