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Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by benhurmarcel »

eitland wrote: post #206
luckylion wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google does this as well - neither a history of emailing back and forth nor a same-day reply will keep incoming email safe from being classified as spam if it's being sent by an ordinary mail server. Hell, Google even manages to classify emails as spam that are sent from one address on a GSuite account to another address on the same account.

I think it is time we realize that Google in its current form is broken in many ways. This is just one example. Others include: - insisting on captchas,and not just one, even when I'm logged in with my >10 year old, paid for account with two-factor enabled - not being able to detect flag attacks against legitimate accounts (as seen on the front page today) - killing reader, trying to force everyone to use a single id…

> like Google Reader but not owned by Google

Since Reader was shut down, we've gotten a lot of really good options for RSS.

Feedly, Inoreader, TinyTinyRSS, Newsblur, The Old Reader, Feedbin, FeedHQ…

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by robjan »

akssri wrote: post #21

Gandi may also be an option here - a domain registered with them comes with two free mailboxes, each with a few GBs of space and calendar support. (Yes, yes, this is the same company that lost the data on their cloud servers.)

They are missing 2FA which is a deal-breaker for many

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by tgvaughan »

vzaliva wrote: post #100
nullc wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering the importance of email that you mention: What is your plan if google suddenly bans your account? Google might not go anywhere but your access to it might. And when their automation directs them to ban an account, there is essentially no recourse-- they won't even respond to you.

any provider can ban your account. my recourse is to switch my domain. I do not use @gmail.com address - I use my own domain with google mail.

Sure, but people who are using free Gmail accounts (not you, of course) have limited recourse if they are locked out. If you're paying for something directly at least you can expect to be treated like a customer.

For me there are two distinct worries and corresponding solutions. I pay 50 bucks to fastmail every year for the peace of mind that I won't lose access to my data. I pay an 8 dollar registration fee every year for the peace of mind that I'll never have to change my address.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by benhurmarcel »

heinrichf wrote: post #195
gpanders wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The company is based in Switzerland and is French speaking. Any chance "AdVite" means something different in French? Apart from that, their website states pretty clearly their privacy policy [1] and other terms [2]. It doesn't look like there is anything shady going on here. I don't personally use Migadu but I've had it bookmarked as the "service I would probably use if/when the day comes". [1]: https://www.migadu.co…

> The company is based in Switzerland and is French speaking. Any chance "AdVite" means something different in French? No, it doesn't mean something different in French.

It doesn't mean anything in French actually. Nothing related to ads either.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by benhurmarcel »

hysan wrote: post #54

One problem that I wish all of these “Move Away from Gmail” articles would address is how to update all of the websites you’ve already created accounts on to your new email address. I’ve had my own email address for several years, but I still keep the old gmail one around because I’ve found that many websites do not allow you to change your email address. This makes it problematic if you have a decades worth of accou…

I just progressively went through all my accounts in my password manager, and changed the email. I used my Gmail account to register to everything for more than a decade, but since I also kept a complete list of all my accounts, it wasn't an issue to change it one by one.

I still have my Gmail account, it just sits empty (in case). There's no need to delete it.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by benhurmarcel »

wycy wrote: post #116

Question for people who have emails at their own domain: what do you pick as your email address? Do you typically use first@firstlast.com? firstlast@firstlast.com? first@last.com? me@firstlast.com? Do you typically use multiple accounts?

It depends on the availability of your preferred domain.

Ideally I'd have used first@last.com. But since it wasn't available I use fl@firstlast.com (fl are the initials).

The reason I use my initials instead of "me@" is because some clients show that username as the sender, and it didn't look good to have the sender be "me".

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by benhurmarcel »

robjan wrote: post #252
akssri wrote: post #21

Gandi may also be an option here - a domain registered with them comes with two free mailboxes, each with a few GBs of space and calendar support. (Yes, yes, this is the same company that lost the data on their cloud servers.)

They are missing 2FA which is a deal-breaker for many

And they don't support DKIM. That's my main complaint with them so far.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by luckylion »

eitland wrote: post #206
luckylion wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google does this as well - neither a history of emailing back and forth nor a same-day reply will keep incoming email safe from being classified as spam if it's being sent by an ordinary mail server. Hell, Google even manages to classify emails as spam that are sent from one address on a GSuite account to another address on the same account.

I think it is time we realize that Google in its current form is broken in many ways. This is just one example. Others include: - insisting on captchas,and not just one, even when I'm logged in with my >10 year old, paid for account with two-factor enabled - not being able to detect flag attacks against legitimate accounts (as seen on the front page today) - killing reader, trying to force everyone to use a single id…

> - like Google search in 2008. I'll happily turn off your adblocker for you and be glad to see simple, relevant text ads. Or pay up to USD5 monthly if thats better (more if necessary and if the quality is good enough, although at some point I'd probably need to expense it.)

I'd happily pay significantly more if it's good. The amount of time I'd save with a good search engine will easily be calculated in hours per month. $50 a month to save me 5 hours and lots of mental energy not spent on skimming useless results? Where do I sign up?

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by benhurmarcel »

masnick wrote: post #105

I switched from Gmail to Fastmail back in 2013 [1] and haven't looked back. Fastmail has continued to make significant improvements, while keeping the interface lean and functional. It seems to me like $3/month is worth it for a service as critical as email. [1]: https://www.maxmasnick.com/2013/07/19/fastmail/ and discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6069944

It's a shame that they don't propose a reduced price for families. The $3-5 add up.

Re: Moving Away from Gmail

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Post by lisper »

eru wrote: post #226
lisper wrote: post #194

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Mine does. And I wrote it myself.

You could use a Bloom filter to save on memory. And perhaps empty it once a year, if necessary. (Ie so that replies to emails older than a year don't rank better than random emails.)

I just throw all the subject lines into a database. The data volume is not even remotely close to the limits of a modern DB.
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