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Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

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Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

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Side poll: Do people automatically download OS updates for their computers? A lesson from my Windows days way back when was never to update anything unless absolutely needed -- computer, phones, etc. "Needed" is loosely defined as "key software that you need to work is no longer working on your older OS, hence you need to upgrade your OS to keep using this key software (sorry!)." I'm aware of security patches etc, bu…

Yes they do: https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/

Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

#92

Side poll: Do people automatically download OS updates for their computers? A lesson from my Windows days way back when was never to update anything unless absolutely needed -- computer, phones, etc. "Needed" is loosely defined as "key software that you need to work is no longer working on your older OS, hence you need to upgrade your OS to keep using this key software (sorry!)." I'm aware of security patches etc, bu…

I have automatic downloads enabled, but I usually beat it to install updates as I generally learn of new developer builds fairly quickly.

Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

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post #67

I'm consistently amazed by HN's ability to take the most meaningless, inconsequential part of an article (the scroll behavior, the whitespace, the usage of the word "bricked"), and nitpick it to hell and back instead of actually discussing the article. Bravo.

To me this is a feature, not a bug. I come here for the hacker lens, often on what I've already read elsewhere.

Sometimes while reading an article I silently curse the load time or layout or terminology. Then I see others here discussing that.

HN does not disappoint.

Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

#94
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original source[0] states that access to Recovery Mode is not possible, at least in some cases. One user there reports[1] that the device shows no signs of life--no power, no fans spinning, nothing: > No power at all. I tried SMC and PRAM reset but sadly was unable to do either since my computer won’t even turn on. [0]: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/warning-macos-catalina-... [1]: https://forums.macrumors.…

Does this issue only affect T2 Macs and MacBooks? If so, maybe a DFU restore is needed.

Do T2 Mac’s have DFU mode like iPhone’s? If so that’s news to me and pretty interesting.

Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

#95

Side poll: Do people automatically download OS updates for their computers? A lesson from my Windows days way back when was never to update anything unless absolutely needed -- computer, phones, etc. "Needed" is loosely defined as "key software that you need to work is no longer working on your older OS, hence you need to upgrade your OS to keep using this key software (sorry!)." I'm aware of security patches etc, bu…

Yes they do: https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/

New versions of iOS usually have a much higher adoption rate than their corresponding macOS release.

Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

#96

Why is Catalina so unstable, were there major architectural changes? I know they broke Nix, ssh and a few others, but why?

Depends on what you’re looking at, but on the whole Catalina probably has more aggressive changes than Mojave did.

Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

#97

It's not "bricked" if you can fix it in Recovery Mode. Still bad that it's happening, but the term "bricked" is thrown around so flippantly these days. If a piece of tech is bricked, it's not recoverable at all.

At least in the Android world, I've seen folks make the distinction between a "soft" or "hard" brick, with the former being fixable via a recovery mode or other software method, while the latter would require a hardware modification or may be truly bricked.

It's also seen that terminology used with game consoles.

Seems pretty standard (and it's how I use the term[s]).

Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just an anecdote but it's been rock solid for me and fixed a number of issues I had with Mojave.

Which issues?

Mostly to do with recognising an external monitor.

Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

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post #35

It's not "bricked" if you can fix it in Recovery Mode. Still bad that it's happening, but the term "bricked" is thrown around so flippantly these days. If a piece of tech is bricked, it's not recoverable at all.

On the one hand, I tend to agree with you. But on the other hand, I think there is a significant nuance - for many users going into recovery mode is beyond what they are comfortable doing with their laptop and so for all intents and purposes a laptop that can only be recovered that way is unrecoverable. More generally, any issue with a computer can be fixed by a sufficiently skilled and determined user - maybe with s…

To be honest, even as an advanced user, I'm not comfortable with recovery modes on any operating system. They tend to be monolithic black boxes and that's a lot scarier than every other recovery method short of desoldering Macbook flash.

Re: Nasty macOS flaw is bricking MacBooks: Don't install this update

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Side poll: Do people automatically download OS updates for their computers? A lesson from my Windows days way back when was never to update anything unless absolutely needed -- computer, phones, etc. "Needed" is loosely defined as "key software that you need to work is no longer working on your older OS, hence you need to upgrade your OS to keep using this key software (sorry!)." I'm aware of security patches etc, bu…

The default in Windows is to auto update and you have no choice without jumping through hoops or working under a corporate group policy. So at least in terms of Windows, the answer to your question is yes - most people automatically download OS updates.
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