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Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by marcuschristie »

dvdhsu wrote: post #114
DrHankPym wrote: post #49

This is why I love Apple. They heavily advertise the iPad during the holiday season, I foolishly purchase one for my parents, and they release a new model three months later. Are they planning to release a new iPad every year or just with every new iOS update?

Good point. John Gruber noticed this. He made the prediction that the iPad 3 would come in fall, along with the new iPods. This would allow people to buy the iPad during the holiday season without worrying a newer model coming a few months later.

But they kept referring to 2011 as the year of the iPad 2. Not to read too much into it, but is that a hint that there won't be an iPad 3 this year?

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by danilocampos »

jarek wrote: post #190
danilocampos wrote: post #170

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> The iPad by any other name and company would not have sold close to that amount. That's definitely true. An iPad by another company would not sell anywhere close to 15 million units in nine months. Why? * Low standards for overall product quality, along with short term gotta make Wall Street happy this quarter thinking, so products get rushed to market * Sloppy software/hardware integration * No access to 20 years…

> consistent, worldwide retail presence You haven't actually tried being an Apple user outside of the first world, have you? Apple's consistent, worldwide retail presence in Poland consists of two "Apple shops" in Warsaw [1]. Apple's consistent, worldwide retail presence in Trinidad and Tobago consists of not-officially-authorized resellers [2]. These are not the exceptions. [1] http://www.apple.com/pl/buy/shop/ [2]…

I was in Hong Kong a few months ago. Apple doesn't have any of their own stores there but I was surprised how many third party retailers picked up on doing things their way.

In the IFC, an awesome knockoff of a real Apple store sells Macs and iPads in a bright, open space, letting users kick the tires.

A Fortress store in Macau wasn't nearly as Apple-like as all that, but you could still poke around at a real iPad.

They may not be, themselves, in every single country, but 300 stores on four continents and in eleven countries is a much bigger hands-on presence than other competing tablet manufacturers can claim, without even getting into the third party distributors that cover even more of the globe.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by jarek »

danilocampos wrote: post #192
jarek wrote: post #190

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> consistent, worldwide retail presence You haven't actually tried being an Apple user outside of the first world, have you? Apple's consistent, worldwide retail presence in Poland consists of two "Apple shops" in Warsaw [1]. Apple's consistent, worldwide retail presence in Trinidad and Tobago consists of not-officially-authorized resellers [2]. These are not the exceptions. [1] http://www.apple.com/pl/buy/shop/ [2]…

I was in Hong Kong a few months ago. Apple doesn't have any of their own stores there but I was surprised how many third party retailers picked up on doing things their way. In the IFC, an awesome knockoff of a real Apple store sells Macs and iPads in a bright, open space, letting users kick the tires. A Fortress store in Macau wasn't nearly as Apple-like as all that, but you could still poke around at a real iPad. T…

Try handling a warranty claim on a Dell and an Apple, or a Nokia and an Apple, outside the first world.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by stcredzero »

spamizbad wrote: post #121
danilocampos wrote: post #90

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Sounds a lot like... "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." This kind of thinking is what has allowed Apple to sweep up so much damn money, along with ownership of the DAP and tablet markets. Give people what they actually need instead of filling out spec lists to appeal to the nerds.

But that statement was a fair (albeit glib) criticism of the original iPod. It never really had it's breakthrough moment until the 3rd generation.

Those original iPods were amazingly well made. Lots of them are still going strong, modulo a replaced switch, headphone jack, or battery.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by lwhi »

achompas wrote: post #145
lwhi wrote: post #88

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Perhaps progress is overrated, when 'smart covers' are the most exciting feature.

Device hardware doesn't matter if the device is hard to use. Smart Covers could solve the iPad's ergonomic problems, and that's far more important to users than two cameras or HDMI out.

What do you do if you have an original iPad? How do you solve the iPad's ergonomic problems then .. ?

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by achompas »

lwhi wrote: post #195
achompas wrote: post #145

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Device hardware doesn't matter if the device is hard to use. Smart Covers could solve the iPad's ergonomic problems, and that's far more important to users than two cameras or HDMI out.

What do you do if you have an original iPad? How do you solve the iPad's ergonomic problems then .. ?

Non-sequitur. We're talking about features about the iPad 2 and suddenly you're asking about iPad 1 users? Improving a device every generation is common in tech. Everyone knows this.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by fourspace »

mechanical_fish wrote: post #51
ugh wrote: post #31

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Why would you buy the new version of any product only one year after you bought the last version? That seems just crazy to me.

You sell the old one used. Apple kit holds its value very well, as you would expect from a product that is selling almost as fast as it can be made. Gazelle.com is currently offering me 60% of the retail price of my old iPad. Must... resist...

Crap! I looked after you posted this and Gazelle was offering $522 for my 32GB WiFi+3G. Now it's down to $350!

Damn you Apple for dumping cheap first-gen iPads onto the market!

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Post by DavidSJ »

nroach wrote: post #102

Is this Steve Jobs signing off? Looking at Engadget's coverage, the tone of Steve's closing seems very different from any past event I can recall. It's always about Apple and about the Product. Jobs is very focused and doesn't "accidentally" include information in his presentations that isn't deliberate. Why then would he include that slide depicting the intersection of technology and liberal arts? Why bother using a…

"I've said this before. I think this is worth repeating."

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Post by jrubyer »

danilocampos wrote: post #152
Pewpewarrows wrote: post #142

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Apple doesn't have to do much to appeal to the mass market of people that purchase their products. The iPad 2 could have only added a camera, and it would sell by the millions this year. Apple has very good PR. It's allowed them to create a nice ecosystem of brand loyalty where people will always come out to buy their "next great thing" year after year. They've made a good profit from it, so it must be working. When…

> Apple doesn't have to do much to appeal to the mass market of people that purchase their products. Of course they do. They're not selling $20 pairs of jeans, here. They're selling expensive stuff that requires a conscious decision to purchase. Apple needs to provide a compelling case to move their product. It's not practical to buy something just because it's from Apple. It has to actually do something for you as a…

>>My parents aren't Apple fans. They're not nerds. They spend a lot of time frustrated with technology. They're nuts about their iPad because it works really well. That's it. Adding a USB port isn't going to make them like it better. It's going to make it more complex, which is going to degrade their experience in using it.

This is interesting. I'm curious, how do they manage the music/photos/videos in their ipad? Doesn't syncing by cord with the computer a messy thing? Or do you do it for them? How do they use it?

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

panacea wrote: post #87
WesleyJohnson wrote: post #66

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Anyone notice at the end of the video on Apple's site the disclaimer about the colors potentially wearing off on the leather versions? Still love the concept and I'd just go with a poly one anyway. Definitely agree with the ergonomics aspect as well. I think the Smart Cover is pretty brilliant in its simplicity.

Does anyone have a coloured leather case for an existing device here? Is this something to be expected when working with dyed leather? Are Apple just being cautious by preempting 'leather-gate' or something similar wherever they can with this product launch?

Ars Technica reported the demo units as already looking scuffed.
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