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For me, the most exciting announcement has to be the line of Smart Covers. iPad covers aren't new, but this cover looks like it could solve the ergonomic problem of typing on your iPad or watching a movie/TV show while you're not sitting on a couch. It also protects your iPad's screen without adding bulk. EDIT: @marcoarment: "The Smart Cover might be the best feature of the iPad 2. I can't possibly express how much I…

This is exactly what I was thinking. I wasn't realistically expecting anymore than what was presented, but I got sucked into the hype machine last minute.

As a result, the case truly stood out to me. Apple improved on ideas that have been implemented by some other standout companies before. Any hardcore BlackBerry user knows the magnets in the BlackBerrys and their holster makes the holster/phone combo an integral part of the BlackBerry experience. Then, you get the folding stand which was most notably (to me) done by InCase.

I'm truly impressed at the SmartCover. Very well executed, both on the marketing side and the (technical) design side.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Sounds a lot like... "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." This kind of thinking is what has allowed Apple to sweep up so much damn money, along with ownership of the DAP and tablet markets. Give people what they actually need instead of filling out spec lists to appeal to the nerds.

Apple doesn't have to do much to appeal to the mass market of people that purchase their products. The iPad 2 could have only added a camera, and it would sell by the millions this year. Apple has very good PR. It's allowed them to create a nice ecosystem of brand loyalty where people will always come out to buy their "next great thing" year after year. They've made a good profit from it, so it must be working. When…

> Apple doesn't have to do much to appeal to the mass market of people that purchase their products.

Of course they do. They're not selling $20 pairs of jeans, here. They're selling expensive stuff that requires a conscious decision to purchase. Apple needs to provide a compelling case to move their product. It's not practical to buy something just because it's from Apple. It has to actually do something for you as a user.

> Apple has very good PR.

This line is exhausting. Apple has very good products. The great marketing and PR is a result of having very good products.

You can't sell 15 million units of a brand new, $500 product in nine months on the strength of TV ads and magazine pieces. It has to actually work well. There may be an initial element of brand trust to grease the skids for launch but sustained sales require something real.

My parents aren't Apple fans. They're not nerds. They spend a lot of time frustrated with technology. They're nuts about their iPad because it works really well. That's it. Adding a USB port isn't going to make them like it better. It's going to make it more complex, which is going to degrade their experience in using it.

"Oh, well, that whole 12 hour battery thing? Doesn't count if you use the USB port. Then it's something else."

"What? Why?"

"USB uses power."

"Why?"

etc.

> Pointing to large sales numbers as a counter-argument to criticism is just plain silly.

You continue to miss the point. The criticism isn't valid. Apple has sold a shitload of iPads on the strength of its simplicity. You're talking about making it less simple. In that case, its success is more than ample refutation of your assertion that adding junk to its spec list is going to somehow improve things.

It's like saying, around 1950 "Hey, turn the automobile into a Rhinoceros – then it'll be able to hit things with its horns."

"But people don't buy cars to do that. Look how well they're selling."

"Sales are not a valid refutation of my criticism that cars have no horns to hit things with!"

etc.

But like I said: Chalking it all up to clever marketing, instead of painstaking investments in software design, hardware fabrication and supply chain optimization is how everyone else keeps dropping the ball while Apple sprints all the way to the bank year after year.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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post #124

For me, the most exciting announcement has to be the line of Smart Covers. iPad covers aren't new, but this cover looks like it could solve the ergonomic problem of typing on your iPad or watching a movie/TV show while you're not sitting on a couch. It also protects your iPad's screen without adding bulk. EDIT: @marcoarment: "The Smart Cover might be the best feature of the iPad 2. I can't possibly express how much I…

"this cover looks like it could solve the ergonomic problem of typing on your iPad or watching a movie/TV show while you're not sitting on a couch." This is just another way of saying that tablets are a horrible form factor.

I see it as "iterative improvement." Apple released the iPad, watched the public's response, and fixed a major problem with a high-margin accessory.

A bit greedy? Yes. A step forward for tablets? Absolutely. You'd better believe Apple's competition will copy this idea in no time.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

#154

For me, the most exciting announcement has to be the line of Smart Covers. iPad covers aren't new, but this cover looks like it could solve the ergonomic problem of typing on your iPad or watching a movie/TV show while you're not sitting on a couch. It also protects your iPad's screen without adding bulk. EDIT: @marcoarment: "The Smart Cover might be the best feature of the iPad 2. I can't possibly express how much I…

Anyone notice at the end of the video on Apple's site the disclaimer about the colors potentially wearing off on the leather versions? Still love the concept and I'd just go with a poly one anyway. Definitely agree with the ergonomics aspect as well. I think the Smart Cover is pretty brilliant in its simplicity.

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Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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USB would add a huge power drain to the ipad. plus I'm not sure if most people would need it. What's wrong with bluetooth add-ons? Also, where are these cheap tablets running honeycomb? The only one I've seen available so far is the Xoom and that's $800 for their starter model.

The Xoom is $600, not $800, and my comment said soon. Android smartphones started out slow as well as you may or may not remember. Apple Fanboys were all too eager to laugh at the first model or two of phone running on Android, and now look who's running the market just a short time later. If you don't see any correlation between what happened then and what's happening now I honestly don't know what to tell you.

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Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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For me, the most interesting announcement was that $2 Billion had been paid out to App Store developers to date.

That means Apple's 30% of App Store purchases is currently $857MM and change.

I also find myself wondering what portion of that $2B went to Angry Birds. I wouldn't be surprised if Angry Birds turns out to be the first >$100MM business on the App Store.

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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So... a dual core processor, two cameras, and... that's it? I was honestly expecting a LOT more considering how much competition they're getting this year. The new cover is neat, and it seems like they did a great job with the Movie and Garage Band apps, but the new iPad 2 is pretty underwhelming. Same old low resolution, no USB ports, and no desperately needed UI changes (I'm guessing iOS 5 wasn't ready yet and you'…

USB? What, exactly, do you want to plug into it?

It will run iOS 5 when it's ready (good luck getting the latest Android releases on non-Google hardware).

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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Does anyone seriously think they are deliberately holding back?

Apple is well known for coming up with ten prototypes, bringing it down to three potential shipping products, and then selecting just one. You can be certain that somewhere in mid 2010, there was a higher resolution version of the iPad 2 that was either in the first group of ten, or possibly even down selected to the final group of three. For reasons of cost, power consumption, or, perhaps competitive pressure (Nobod…

I've never heard of that (whittling 10 prototypes to 3, then picking 1) - source?

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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I currently have the first generation iPad. The thing that tempts me about the iPad 2 is the front facing camera for video conferencing. I think I'll wait and see what the reviews are like first...

Re: Live from Apple's iPad 2 event

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What competitors are shipping their tablets by March 11? Last I saw for RIM was April. Loaded question perhaps, but the "iPad killers" based on Honeycomb aren't out en masse yet.

This is a tablet that has to stand against the next entire year of competitors, at Apple's current release schedule. It's not even caught up to the Xoom in terms of hardware specs. Like the iPhone before it, it'll be tough competition against the wave of competitors that have faster release schedules.

For the general public, it doesn't have to keep up with hardware specs when the experience already out-paces it.
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