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Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Post by jonathanoliver »

danso wrote: post #22
jonathanoliver wrote: post #3

I'm wondering if this has floated to the top of HN because of the recent GCP outages (both a few days ago and from this morning). I'm trying to figure out if this is coincidental or ironic. NOTE: As a heavy user of GCP we we're affected by the three most recent outages (GCIC20005, GCIC20004, GCIC20003), but I definitely feel for those that were impacted.

Coincidence and irony aren't mutually exclusive. In any case, it's not surprising that free books about SRE have been noticed by HN users during a time of widescale quarantine.

I'm surprised by the down votes. I still find it intriguing that during an outage the SRE handbook floats to the top.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Post by armitron »

danso wrote: post #32
armitron wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the same Google services running on top of data centers that the NSA had infiltrated and was monitoring for years?

You mean the same program that also "infiltrated" (I guess you take those companies at their word that they weren't cooperating) every other tech giant? Again, that's why I asked "Compared to what?" What is your favorite tech company, uninfiltrated by the NSA while also serving billions of users, whose SRE books would be more worthwhile?

Assuming that an answer to your question is even quantifiable (it isn't since you're asking me to prove nonexistence), how is it relevant to my original question?

The security failures that allowed the NSA to come in were comical. Deliberate choices that Google made are for the most part responsible for the Android fiasco. In fact, Google is one of the behemoths that put us all at -ever increasing- risk in the name of profit and so far have done precious little to reverse course [1].

[1] https://seclists.org/dailydave/2020/q2/1

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Post by saltedonion »

sethvargo wrote: post #14

Hey everyone - Seth from Google here. Thank you for all the positive comments about the book. I'll be around to answer any questions you might have. As noted, the book can be downloaded for free in digital formats. PDF: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/SRS.pdf EPUB: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/srs-epub.epub MOBI: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/srs-mobi.mobi

I’m on mobile safari and the ePub and mobi files open as text. This means I can’t export them to Apple Books or the iOS kindle app. Could you please trigger a download instead if possible ?

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Post by sethvargo »

saltedonion wrote: post #43
sethvargo wrote: post #14

Hey everyone - Seth from Google here. Thank you for all the positive comments about the book. I'll be around to answer any questions you might have. As noted, the book can be downloaded for free in digital formats. PDF: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/SRS.pdf EPUB: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/srs-epub.epub MOBI: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/srs-mobi.mobi

I’m on mobile safari and the ePub and mobi files open as text. This means I can’t export them to Apple Books or the iOS kindle app. Could you please trigger a download instead if possible ?

Thanks for the feedback. This is a known issue that another user flagged this morning. The team is pursuing a fix. The content-type on the file is incorrect :/.

In the meantime, you can open it in a browser and email it to yourself. Not ideal, but a workaround.

[EDIT]: s/pursing/pursuing

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Post by pkaye »

sethvargo wrote: post #18
xyst wrote: post #12

What does a lizard have to do with SRE?

Great question. As an O'Reilly author myself, I can tell you that we have no control over the animal selected. There's a fun animal selection process, but the publisher's decide. Disclaimer - I work for Google and worked on this book.

Just curious deals like this work. Does Google pay O'Reilly for the editing and typography or does O'Reilly make money by selling the book themselves.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Post by l9i »

muro wrote: post #36

Looking at the authors, this book would be more about security, rather than reliability.

We did our best to highlight the intersection of security and reliability. I admit there might be more emphasis on security in some chapters, especially those that overlap with the previous two SRE books (that were exclusively about reliability). We wanted to avoid repeating ourselves.

(disclaimer: I work at Google)

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Post by sethvargo »

ignoramous wrote: post #40
sethvargo wrote: post #14

Hey everyone - Seth from Google here. Thank you for all the positive comments about the book. I'll be around to answer any questions you might have. As noted, the book can be downloaded for free in digital formats. PDF: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/SRS.pdf EPUB: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/srs-epub.epub MOBI: https://landing.google.com/sre/static/pdf/srs-mobi.mobi

I really liked that there were HTML versions of the previous two books. Any chance that'll be up for this one? A bit far-fetched but: Have you (or anyone else at Google) looked at Amazon Builder's Library [0] and/or various re:Invent / re:Inforce talks from 2018/19 [1][2] that focus on similar topics as in this book and other SRE books? If so, what are some ideas (infrastructure, blast radius, incident management, re…

I'll flag the HTML pages with the team. I'm honestly not sure. I know we're able to offer epub and mobi this time, something not previously possible with the other books.

I haven't looked at those other resources, but I'll ask if others have.

Re: New Google SRE book: Building Secure and Reliable Systems

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Post by sethvargo »

pkaye wrote: post #46
sethvargo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great question. As an O'Reilly author myself, I can tell you that we have no control over the animal selected. There's a fun animal selection process, but the publisher's decide. Disclaimer - I work for Google and worked on this book.

Just curious deals like this work. Does Google pay O'Reilly for the editing and typography or does O'Reilly make money by selling the book themselves.

I don't think I can talk about that, sorry.
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