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Re: Apple Faceshield

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Because humor is "negativity". Maybe don't make people feel worse. Thank you.

Maybe humor isn't negative, but I don't see how a misleading "joke" is a worthy comment. If you just want to make empty and meaningless jokes, perhaps there is a better forum for it.

I believe there is a better forum for virtue signaling, too.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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I’m sad that even though this unique design was done and put online for anyone to print by Prusa, he is hardly mentioned now. On top of that, the design is already commercialized. EDIT: I see now that the design is different, you’re right

Can you sterilize a 3D print easily? The major downside to 3D prints is all the voids and pinholes the process creates, aside from material compatibility issues with sterilizers. This design is entirely die cut, which is incredibly fast. A machine could probably stamp out 10 of these in the time it takes to print one layer in a typical FDM printer.

> Can you sterilize a 3D print easily

You can – depending on the material. The problem is keeping them sterile because, as you point out, there's gaps between layers. And there's wear on the material with most sterilization processes. Which doesn't really help with the end goal. Ideally these would be quickly discarded.

> A machine could probably stamp out 10 of these in the time it takes to print one layer in a typical FDM printer

An Apple machine, right? Have they shared their designs so that other manufacturing facilities can build them? If they did not... then you'll get the obsession with 3d printing.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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I was hoping everyone in the US might be able to buy one. Ideally, they'd be cheap enough for municipalities to buy and distribute.

Woofie11 expresses hope that everyone should be able to have a shield, not just health care workers first and people here down vote them? What's so wrong with that? Do you not believe that yes, everyone should be able to have protective equipment not just health care workers? In what kind of a country do we live where we have to ration health care supplies (a basic one at that -- it's literally clear plastic) to only…

From the post above “These pack flat, one hundred per box..." it's clear they are packaged for large organizations. They almost certainly have zero interest in developing individual packaging for consumers.

Didn't vote him down, but it is a bit silly. Apple isn't becoming a medical supply company, they are producing a product to fill an urgent medical need. They don't have the distribution network to supply these to retail, nor is it likely they ever will.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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post #101

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> Touching one's mask is infinitely better than the alternative of touching one's face, No, because the outside of the mask is contaminated and now your fingers are contaminated. > and in the case of a non-symptomatic individual wearing a mask to reduce outbound infectious particles has no bearing at all. No, because the outside of the mask is contaminated because those masks are not impermeable and the virus does pe…

Both of those things seem just as hard as managing a mask. People are crap at handwashing, and face touching is subconscious.

You inadvertently touch your face way more often when wearing a mask, that much is pretty obvious. You also are more likely to be more confident about your safety and behave in a slightly more risky way. Kind of like how cars drive closer to bikers with helmets than bikers without them.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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Context: https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/5/21209270/apple-face-shield... “Our first shipment was delivered to Kaiser hospital facilities in the Santa Clara Valley this past week, and the feedback from doctors was very positive,” Cook says. “These pack flat, one hundred per box. Each shield is assembled in less than two minutes and is fully adjustable. We’re sourcing materials and manufacturing in the US and China.” A…

I was hoping everyone in the US might be able to buy one. Ideally, they'd be cheap enough for municipalities to buy and distribute.

Like I posted below, you can make an improvised "face shield" out of plastic food wrap in about 15 seconds. No parts needed. Wrap it around your head at forehead level so it sticks to itself. Keep the bottom part loose, so you can freely breathe.

Readily available, cheap, disposable, lightweight, does not restrict visibility.

If you're working in the wind, you might need to weigh down the bottom part with something, but that's also trivial to do.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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Woofie11 expresses hope that everyone should be able to have a shield, not just health care workers first and people here down vote them? What's so wrong with that? Do you not believe that yes, everyone should be able to have protective equipment not just health care workers? In what kind of a country do we live where we have to ration health care supplies (a basic one at that -- it's literally clear plastic) to only…

From the post above “These pack flat, one hundred per box..." it's clear they are packaged for large organizations. They almost certainly have zero interest in developing individual packaging for consumers. Didn't vote him down, but it is a bit silly. Apple isn't becoming a medical supply company, they are producing a product to fill an urgent medical need. They don't have the distribution network to supply these to…

You don't think Apple has literally one of the best distribution networks in the world? What percent of the country is within a few miles of an Apple store that already receives shipments a few times a week?

Re: Apple Faceshield

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I was hoping everyone in the US might be able to buy one. Ideally, they'd be cheap enough for municipalities to buy and distribute.

Like I posted below, you can make an improvised "face shield" out of plastic food wrap in about 15 seconds. No parts needed. Wrap it around your head at forehead level so it sticks to itself. Keep the bottom part loose, so you can freely breathe. Readily available, cheap, disposable, lightweight, does not restrict visibility. If you're working in the wind, you might need to weigh down the bottom part with something,…

Or just put a two-gallon sandwich bag over your head.

Not recommended for infants and small children, of course...

Re: Apple Faceshield

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post #86

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Given that they probably would cost $1 to $5, and take almost no space to store, it wouldn't be a terrible thing for people to have a few if they want them. How many people have a $20 multi-tool that stays in a drawer somewhere? Or some bags of rice "just in case" that end up getting thrown in the trash after being forgotten about in the cabinet for 5 years? It may not be a terrible thing if some percentage of people…

What about the environmental impact of people buying everything "just in case?" Should we be stockpiling oil like crazy right now when prices are low just in case (while also artificially driving up demand)? Isn't one of the key criticisms of farm and manufacturing subsidies that they are wasteful uses of our budget while one of the arguments in favor of them is that it maintains our infrastructure "just in case"? Wh…

> Should we be stockpiling oil like crazy right now when prices are low just in case (while also artificially driving up demand)?

yes? there's a national strategic oil reserve. that's exactly the thing it should do.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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I was hoping everyone in the US might be able to buy one. Ideally, they'd be cheap enough for municipalities to buy and distribute.

Like I posted below, you can make an improvised "face shield" out of plastic food wrap in about 15 seconds. No parts needed. Wrap it around your head at forehead level so it sticks to itself. Keep the bottom part loose, so you can freely breathe. Readily available, cheap, disposable, lightweight, does not restrict visibility. If you're working in the wind, you might need to weigh down the bottom part with something,…

You're saying to literally wrap your face in plastic wrap and leave a little hole to breathe? I think someone's going to try this advice and suffocate.
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