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Re: Apple Faceshield

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Seeing people touching their masks continually while wearing gloves and using a phone is depressing.

Touching one's mask is infinitely better than the alternative of touching one's face, and in the case of a non-symptomatic individual wearing a mask to reduce outbound infectious particles has no bearing at all. The whole 'masks are too hard to use' thing was a horror perpetrated by gov't officials afraid of private individuals hoarding masks.

> Touching one's mask is infinitely better than the alternative of touching one's face,

No, because the outside of the mask is contaminated and now your fingers are contaminated.

> and in the case of a non-symptomatic individual wearing a mask to reduce outbound infectious particles has no bearing at all.

No, because the outside of the mask is contaminated because those masks are not impermeable and the virus does penetrate it, and so now that persons fingers are contaminated and they contaminate other surfaces.

> The whole 'masks are too hard to use'

So far every single video I've seen of people who aren't HCPs wearing PPE has shown them make mistakes that lead to contamination.

"Wash your hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds; don't touch your face" is much simpler than the protocols for donning and doffing gloves and mask.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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post #51

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They made 20,000,000 of them already and they’re free. I assume you’re joking but they’re trying to save lives and I don’t see the need for negativity around this. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/apple-will-battle-co...

Because humor is "negativity". Maybe don't make people feel worse. Thank you.

Maybe humor isn't negative, but I don't see how a misleading "joke" is a worthy comment. If you just want to make empty and meaningless jokes, perhaps there is a better forum for it.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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Context: https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/5/21209270/apple-face-shield... “Our first shipment was delivered to Kaiser hospital facilities in the Santa Clara Valley this past week, and the feedback from doctors was very positive,” Cook says. “These pack flat, one hundred per box. Each shield is assembled in less than two minutes and is fully adjustable. We’re sourcing materials and manufacturing in the US and China.” A…

>feedback from doctors was very positive

If it didn't work, they would say the same thing.

Source- first years of butterfly keyboard

Re: Apple Faceshield

#104
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Why? Most ordinary non-healthcare-worker people have no need for this level of PPE, especially if they're following social distances rules like they should be.

I can't control what other people do in grocery stores. They walk too close and there's nothing I can do about it. I'd like something to keep shit out of my eyes.

not to equivocate but this reminds me of the pro gun control discussion

Re: Apple Faceshield

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Can someone explain to me why is Apple making this type of stuff?

1) Because they _can_. They have the manufacturing connections to quickly connect the needed pieces 2) Because they have the spare cash to spin this up very quickly. 3) Because they want to help (or at a minimum, look like they're helping). Are there any reasons why they _shouldn't_ be making this kind of stuff? Other companies also meet all 3 of those conditions, and I think we should be glad (note: I'm saying 'glad…

What other American company has the logistic and design know how that Apple has to make hundreds of millions devices?

Re: Apple Faceshield

#108

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Seeing people touching their masks continually while wearing gloves and using a phone is depressing.

Touching one's mask is infinitely better than the alternative of touching one's face, and in the case of a non-symptomatic individual wearing a mask to reduce outbound infectious particles has no bearing at all. The whole 'masks are too hard to use' thing was a horror perpetrated by gov't officials afraid of private individuals hoarding masks.

>Touching one's mask is infinitely better than the alternative of touching one's face

...assuming the act of wearing the mask isn't the reason for touching the face in the first place (eg. adjusting the mask)

Re: Apple Faceshield

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I was curious, so I looked at the Prusa design. The Apple design has enough additional cleverness that it's quite a stretch to call them the same. The main difference is that it doesn't require 3D printing which is obviously a deal-breaker for the quantity needed. By incorporating the clear plastic as a structural element, they eliminated a piece from the design. The bottom piece is also eliminated. Altogether more e…

I wish media would stop tooting how amazing "3D Printing" is. It is just one of the ways of manufacturing. IMO, it is a poor way to do anything besides home hobby projects (there are a few medical exceptions). It takes 12+ hours to print anything useful. Yet media loves talking about 3D printing. For anyone who has worked in product design and manufacturing, it is one thing to be able to make a few prototypes (which…

> IMO, it is a poor way to do anything besides home hobby projects (there are a few medical exceptions).

It's good for various sorts of low-volume production, particularly prototyping. But yes, the hype about 3d printing putting factories out of business is very silly.

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