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Re: Apple Faceshield

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Where they describe how to sterilize it: DO NOT mix those chemicals together (e.g., bleach + rubbing alcohol = chloroform).

Oh boy. Haven't they been recommending a mix of bleach and rubbing alcohol for like a month?

Independently, not together.

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#172

This is impressive, compared to what traditional health companies like Pharma are doing. The latter seem mostly to update existing products like faster tests or trying to develop vaccines. Whereas it’s the tech companies which are going a bit beyond their traditional business: Apple making face masks, Google and Apple making screening websites (other examples?) All of which could be done by traditional health compani…

What a delusional perspective

Re: Apple Faceshield

#173
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Why? Most ordinary non-healthcare-worker people have no need for this level of PPE, especially if they're following social distances rules like they should be.

I can't control what other people do in grocery stores. They walk too close and there's nothing I can do about it. I'd like something to keep shit out of my eyes.

I'm not saying don't get a face shield, but even with shield and mask you still want to maintain distance.

Last time I shopped in a grocery store, I went when it wasn't crowded and prioritized staying away from people. If someone came towards me I went the other way. If someone was already in an aisle pointed toward me, or was pointed the other way but not far along, I didn't go into that aisle just then. If someone stood in front of an item I wanted, I came back for it, or skipped it if it wasn't important.

I also wore a mask, but I treated that store as hostile territory, focused on avoiding people, and got the heck out as fast as I could.

Re: Apple Faceshield

#175
It's simple enough to work well, cheap to produce, can be transported easily - very cool.

Can we expect a ventilator machined from a block of aluminum next?

Re: Apple Faceshield

#176
Apple:

  Apple FaceShield® - A magical yet disposable premium face shield from yours truly at One Apple Park.*

  *This device has not been tested or qualified to prevent or reduce infection, and does not provide particulate filtration. Not intended for use in surgical settings. These devices have not been disinfected or cleaned. Non-sterile.*

  Only $99 yearly subscription. /s

  Thank you. *Terms and Conditions Apply.

  Copyright © 2020 Apple Inc. All rights reserved.
Everyone: Just like every face shield, but this one has a Apple Logo. Cool another collectable!

Me: Ok.

Re: Apple Faceshield

#177

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Lots of medical people telling general public they do not need PPE and then they wonder why the hospitals are full of sick people. edit: go ahead and downvote you losers. nobody cares.

I'm not sure I understand this argument. Are you speaking of sick people coming into the hospital during this pandemic or overall? Because I can ensure you, many hospitalizations are not due to a lack of PPE. Broken hips are not caused by a lack of PPE; myocardial infractions are not caused by a lack of wearing gloves; nor is a person falling into a diabetic comma caused by not wearing PPE. But, if you're talking abo…

People were told face masks don't work by the officials. This actively harmful lie was propagated since they wanted to save the PPE for health care workers. The problem with this approach is that one asymptotic/mild cashier can undo the work of a thousand health care workers.

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Wear sunglasses.

Maybe chemical goggles. Though I'm wary of anything that touches my face, because I have to wash my face and worry about pushing the virus into my eyes.

Bear in mind that soap doesn't just wash off the virus, it destroys it. The virus is held together by lipids, which soap dissolves.

Still, that's an interesting point, maybe it's a good reason face shields are better than goggles.

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Touching one's mask is infinitely better than the alternative of touching one's face, and in the case of a non-symptomatic individual wearing a mask to reduce outbound infectious particles has no bearing at all. The whole 'masks are too hard to use' thing was a horror perpetrated by gov't officials afraid of private individuals hoarding masks.

> Touching one's mask is infinitely better than the alternative of touching one's face, No, because the outside of the mask is contaminated and now your fingers are contaminated. > and in the case of a non-symptomatic individual wearing a mask to reduce outbound infectious particles has no bearing at all. No, because the outside of the mask is contaminated because those masks are not impermeable and the virus does pe…

Yes, but touching a dried droplet is much less likely to lead to infection than inhaling one.

Re: Apple Faceshield

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I learned about these from the book "A Child Called It". When the abusive parent uses the bleach+ammonia mixture on him. Then I tried to figure out what else bleach could do. This is not a healthy line of experimenting for a dumb 17 year old. I 100% believe HS chem should teach this. Then at least you know what not to do.

Isn't it very clearly printed on the bottle in your country? Here (I assume this is an EU regulation) it says "WARNING! Do not use together with other products. May release dangerous gases (chlorine)."

Here's a couple of typical labels in the US:

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/2025dfde-c877-4043-b91d-978...

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/05122787-1991-4084-869e-755...

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