Hydroxychloroquine Update for April 6

Post by Klonoar » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 11:27 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #50

Klonoar wrote: post #45

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Opting to listen to Navarro over Fauci is a very odd choice. Look, I get that certain discussions on this damn site resist dragging politics into it all, but this is pretty important: Navarro has nowhere near the qualifications that Fauci does and there is no reason to listen to him on this. You're contributing to a larger problem with misinformation at a time when it's not needed. Listen to the medical professional,…

I think he's just relying on Navarro's reporting that HCQ is being used in NYC, which, it clearly is; it looks like it's being tried all over the place. You can probably safely quote administration officials on something that simple. If he quoted Navarro saying HCQ was working , that would be problematic, especially because it doesn't seem to be working.

Post by hexl » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 11:29 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #53

HarryHirsch wrote: post #48

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There is a clinical trial going on to check for just that. The hope is that when taken as a prophylactic it prevents entry into cells and give the immune system an advantage over the pathogen, but as you say, the immunosuppressive effects are a concern. We'll see soon enough.

Repeating myself, but: there's an extent to which that trial has already been running naturally, since lots and lots of people take doses of HCQ comparable to the C19 protocol already, for rheumatoid arthritis. Lots of those people are getting C19. Are you seeing reports that arthritic patients who get C19 are faring better?

Post by kevingadd » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 11:39 PM UTC

xienze wrote: post #54

threeseed wrote: post #44

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> It’s a well-understood drug For treating the issues it was designed for. Not for treating COVID-19.

You could technically say that about Tylenol, but I doubt there’d be anyone jumping up and down about how dangerous it would be for a Covid 19 patient to take 500mg of it daily as part of a treatment regimen. There’s literally NO drugs approved specifically for Covid 19, but there are drugs, like HCQ, which are promising and well-understood in general.

Post by beagle3 » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 11:44 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #53

HarryHirsch wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a clinical trial going on to check for just that. The hope is that when taken as a prophylactic it prevents entry into cells and give the immune system an advantage over the pathogen, but as you say, the immunosuppressive effects are a concern. We'll see soon enough.

Repeating myself, but: there's an extent to which that trial has already been running naturally, since lots and lots of people take doses of HCQ comparable to the C19 protocol already, for rheumatoid arthritis. Lots of those people are getting C19. Are you seeing reports that arthritic patients who get C19 are faring better?

Post by tptacek » Mon, Apr 06, 2020, 11:48 PM UTC

HarryHirsch wrote: post #68

tptacek wrote: post #53

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Repeating myself, but: there's an extent to which that trial has already been running naturally, since lots and lots of people take doses of HCQ comparable to the C19 protocol already, for rheumatoid arthritis. Lots of those people are getting C19. Are you seeing reports that arthritic patients who get C19 are faring better?

People with rheumatoid arthritis are not a good population to study. We know that certain comorbidities increase death rate. Now you have people with immune system problems taking an immunosuppressive drug. The outcome tells you nothing.