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Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by ozzyman700 »

jakearmitage wrote: post #173
alexgodin wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The average SNAP recipient receives about $4 a day and sees their balance run out after just 17 days. This is not enough.

Source?

http://www.ctfoodbank.org/about-hunger/take-the-snap-challen...

took 3 seconds to find this by googling "average snap per month". I could find national numbers from secondary sources that cited federal sources but couldn't easily find a hyperlink to those federal sources.

But I am sure just as easy as typing Source? you could find your answer

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Post by fart_ratty »

crazygringo wrote: post #139
blisterpeanuts wrote: post #27

The logistics behind this must be formidable. They would need hundreds of food preparers, all of them tested daily for COVID-19 and of course practicing strict hygiene in prep and packaging. Still it's probably easier to control than thousands of separate restaurants and food markets, which is undoubtedly their thinking: centralize food distribution to minimize risky contact. This is a sobering reminder of how depend…

It's literally just all (or close to all?) existing public school cafeterias staying open. Same cafeteria workers as always, same types of menus. The biggest change in logistics seems to be that all the meals are now to-go, so goodbye trays, hello bags.

Did public schools previously provide 3 meals a day?

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umvi wrote: post #149
gshdg wrote: post #121

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Obesity in this country is closely linked to poverty. The foods that people in poverty have access to (because of cost but also because of food deserts) offer excessive calories but poorly balanced nutrition. That means that people are obese but at the same time essentially starving to death from lack of nutrients. Which causes more food cravings that people are able to attempt to satiate only with more food with poo…

I think obesity dis-proportionally affects impoverished African Americans vs. other impoverished races. At least based on one point of anecdata - my neighbors. I have lots of poor families in my neighborhood even though I am middle class myself thanks to HOC (a Maryland social program where middle class housing is subsidized for the poor). Long story short - my poor African American neighbors are extremely obese; and…

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Post by nvahalik »

gerbal wrote: post #56
nvahalik wrote: post #25

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> Without universal basic income, we are totally f@cked UBI isn't a savior. UBI still requires that people, you know, pay taxes. If 30-40% of people have no income and are completely dependent upon the government, then you have slavery 2.0 (3.0?) and you will end up creating a worse, classed society than you had before: the ones receiving vs. those who pay for what everyone else gets. Or the government just prints mo…

I though slavery was having a job you couldn't quit and weren't paid for? Having no job and guaranteed income seems pretty far from being owned by another human.

To think that American southern slave trade (e.g. plantations) is the only real form of slavery is extremely myopic.

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Post by nvahalik »

gruez wrote: post #177
bosie wrote: post #43

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Regarding your first paragraph: At least in a lot of european countries, income tax isn't even the most lucrative tax for the government. Additionally quite a few working people aren't paying income tax. When you can deduct 13k from your income each year, not many people working for a supermarket are paying income taxes for example. Example, Amazon and VW are creating high revenue in Austria and Germany yet their tax…

>At least in a lot of european countries, income tax isn't even the most lucrative tax for the government. Can you provide a few examples? What other revenue streams do those governments have?

Norway has oil. (For now.)

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Post by fart_ratty »

atdrummond wrote: post #31
arbitrage wrote: post #2

New York City, that is. Not New York State.

A homeless friend of mine is stuck in NYC and his family’s daily meals were (are) provided by this service - despite neither him nor his children being NYC residents. I am sure enough other adults (parents or otherwise) were receiving this food that making such disbursements allowed was mainly about legitimizing the good that was already occurring than accidentally admitting that significant amounts of people were pr…

> No registration or ID required

So, it sounds like anyone that shows up can get food.

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Post by cglace »

somacore wrote: post #186
mysterydip wrote: post #168

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What's enough? We have a grocery budget of $500 a month for a family of 5. That's $3.30 per person per day.

You're assuming a lot about people's ability to thoughtfully shop at a grocery store once per week. It isn't just about money per person.

So what do you propose?

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Post by Justsignedup »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #181
alexgodin wrote: post #118

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The average SNAP recipient receives about $4 a day and sees their balance run out after just 17 days. This is not enough.

I don't think SNAP is supposed to always cover 100% of food expenses. If you're near the cutoff point for benefits, you get some allowance, but you're expected to cover some of the food cost from your income. You would of course use your SNAP benefits first, since they are not fungible, so it is not surprising that you would run out before the end of the month. This does not mean that such households are unable to af…

That's the point. It should.

If we remove the fear of starvation (we can afford to feed everyone twice and barely put a dent in our military budget) a lot of people will have a HUGE improvement in their day-to-day happiness. This is one of those obvious huge moral positives we can do.

The only "down side" is there will never be fear of starvation.

Edit: The one progress I can see in a society is when we can basically say that certain problems that people may have... those problems just literally won't exist.

- basic housing

- 3 meals a day

- a basic level of health care

with the amount of cash flow in the US there shouldn't be a single person who has to worry about one of those 3.

edit 2: I mean any person who "struggles with hunger" which is ~40 mil. Also, that is in itself a terrifying number.

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Post by School-Cotton »

Robotbeat wrote: post #158
impostergc wrote: post #148

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By essentially free, you mean easily attainable, but not "free" in the economic sense of costing nothing?

Even oxygen has a cost from the pedantic point of view.

I can't understand in what sense you mean. Oxygen is so widespread in the environment that nobody has to expend any energy or resources to produce it, it is just there. Unlike food.

(This comment is not meant to argue for or against the position that food should be provided by the State. I'm just trying to understand what you mean.)

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