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Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by mcherm »

jsonne wrote: post #92
tren-hard wrote: post #18

One of those things I wish could out last this virus. We'd be so much better off as a society if we could at least keep our people fed. The comments in here seem a little negative currently but this is great news. Think of all the people in NYC who didn't have access to clean and regular food before the virus.

As of 2018 40 million Americans received more than 57 billion dollars in SNAP. It seems like largely the US has been and will continue to keep people fed. Note also that this is just 1 Federal program and doesn't mention the multitude of other state level and city level programs that exist as well as private charities, religious organizations, etc. Please note I am not saying the system is perfect, shouldn't be expan…

The cost of the program is not a very good way of evaluating it. the number of people it feeds and how well it does so would be a much better criterion.

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by soperj »

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 wrote: post #108
Hello71 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and yet according to the USDA, "11.1 percent of households were food insecure at least some time during the year, including 4.3 percent (5.6 million households) that had very low food security".

So where’s the disconnect here? SNAP is widely available, so we need to investigate the gap.

57 billion into 40 million people = $1425. That's without any overhead. Say there was no overhead, that's $3.90 a day.

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by pjc50 »

jsonne wrote: post #92
tren-hard wrote: post #18

One of those things I wish could out last this virus. We'd be so much better off as a society if we could at least keep our people fed. The comments in here seem a little negative currently but this is great news. Think of all the people in NYC who didn't have access to clean and regular food before the virus.

As of 2018 40 million Americans received more than 57 billion dollars in SNAP. It seems like largely the US has been and will continue to keep people fed. Note also that this is just 1 Federal program and doesn't mention the multitude of other state level and city level programs that exist as well as private charities, religious organizations, etc. Please note I am not saying the system is perfect, shouldn't be expan…

> 40 million Americans received more than 57 billion dollars in SNAP.

57bn / 40m = $1425

$1425 / 365 = $3.90

While that's doable, it's really not a lot.

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by TulliusCicero »

alexgodin wrote: post #118
jsonne wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As of 2018 40 million Americans received more than 57 billion dollars in SNAP. It seems like largely the US has been and will continue to keep people fed. Note also that this is just 1 Federal program and doesn't mention the multitude of other state level and city level programs that exist as well as private charities, religious organizations, etc. Please note I am not saying the system is perfect, shouldn't be expan…

The average SNAP recipient receives about $4 a day and sees their balance run out after just 17 days. This is not enough.

This is somewhat misleadingly worded: it makes it sound like what they receive each month is 17*4 = $68. The actual average per month is $127/recipient.

Arguably this is still insufficient, though.

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by Zenst »

jshevek wrote: post #127
Zenst wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://dpointernational.com/the-differences-between-halal-ko...

If you disagree with the parent, you could courteously exert the small effort to explain why directly and briefly.

I wasn't agreeing or disagree and that was a presumption all of your own.

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by bloopernova »

jsonne wrote: post #92
tren-hard wrote: post #18

One of those things I wish could out last this virus. We'd be so much better off as a society if we could at least keep our people fed. The comments in here seem a little negative currently but this is great news. Think of all the people in NYC who didn't have access to clean and regular food before the virus.

As of 2018 40 million Americans received more than 57 billion dollars in SNAP. It seems like largely the US has been and will continue to keep people fed. Note also that this is just 1 Federal program and doesn't mention the multitude of other state level and city level programs that exist as well as private charities, religious organizations, etc. Please note I am not saying the system is perfect, shouldn't be expan…

Incorrect, SNAP and other federal/state programs do not go far enough to feed a family. And the poorest families are constantly demonized as some sort of "Welfare Queen" living large on steaks and top shelf liquor.

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by Robotbeat »

impostergc wrote: post #148
Robotbeat wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right. Food insecurity need not be a problem for anyone in the 21st Century. It should be like running out of oxygen: nearly impossible because it's essentially free and widely available.

By essentially free, you mean easily attainable, but not "free" in the economic sense of costing nothing?

Even oxygen has a cost from the pedantic point of view.

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by Zenst »

jshevek wrote: post #116
Zenst wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet they singled out one religious dietary requirements whilst ignoring a whole demographic with a large populus and history of the area - colour me perplexed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_in_New_York_City Still, thank you for replying instead of blind downvote because antisemitisim has many forms it seems, even here :( [EDIT ADD] WOW this comment has gone up and down like crazy - was +4 few mins ago, now -2 (a…

"Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."

Agreed - however in light of the sudden downvote withoutcomment, you kinda feel that people should not be allowed to downvote without comment and avoid turning this into reddit.

I raised a fair and valid observation and yet, well, hard to ignore such things and I'm not going to debate why as politics is bad.

Thank you for your concerns and not blindly dismissing the point as many have and did do.

I'm going for a walk now, I may be some time.

Re: Three free meals available daily for any New Yorker

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Post by dickjocke »

jefftk wrote: post #126
Hello71 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and yet according to the USDA, "11.1 percent of households were food insecure at least some time during the year, including 4.3 percent (5.6 million households) that had very low food security".

"food insecure" may be a relatively low bar: it looks like it includes "reports of reduced quality, variety, or desirability of diet. Little or no indication of reduced food intake." https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/fo...

I don't think that's a low bar. The US is an advanced economy. Why would people being unable to get fresh produce or have a balanced and varied diet be acceptable? Especially when you consider the obesity problems the country is facing.

I think that food insecurity meaning literal hunger pains is way too low a bar for the US. That number should be literally 0%. Food security for us should mean food that is healthy and excellent.

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