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Agreed. It's unlikely they stumbled onto an industry standard phrase like that alone, then innocently used it without knowing the generally accepted meaning. This is deceptive advertising.
Not just "deceptive" nor "unlikely", it's blatant false advertising.
SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns
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#93Being the Linux geek, I use MS Teams. I even use it with its Linux client, and works astonishingly well. My only 2 grievances with it are: 1. Teams steals focus to make the next message on a group, rather than in the threat ALL THE TIME. Ive been there for a dozen comments because Teams stole cursor focus. 2. Its easy to make an invite to a one-shot room, rather than use an existing room. Doing so loses all history a…
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple does the same thing, where they claim iMessage is ETE encrypted, but the keys (so capabilities to read) are stored on their servers.
No, it doesn't. https://support.apple.com/guide/security/how-imessage-sends-...
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#95At my previous job, we used to dial in random zoom numbers and entered into random conversations of other companies. Once we landed into a Facebook call where they were talking about Libra (before it was a thing).
If you turn of camera and video, the host doesn't even know you're there unless they check guest list.
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#96The fact that they show end users (no pun intended) an "end-to-end encrypted" badge on the meeting window itself, and elsewhere explain how a Zoom server (not Zoom client) is what constitutes an "end" despite the whole rest of the electronic communication industry using "end-to-end" to refer exclusively to user agents, is bonkers.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple does the same thing, where they claim iMessage is ETE encrypted, but the keys (so capabilities to read) are stored on their servers.
No, it doesn't. https://support.apple.com/guide/security/how-imessage-sends-...
"If you have iCloud Backup turned on, your backup includes a copy of the key protecting your Messages. This ensures you can recover your Messages if you lose access to iCloud Keychain and your trusted devices."
Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns
#98The fact that they show end users (no pun intended) an "end-to-end encrypted" badge on the meeting window itself, and elsewhere explain how a Zoom server (not Zoom client) is what constitutes an "end" despite the whole rest of the electronic communication industry using "end-to-end" to refer exclusively to user agents, is bonkers.
they appear to have already changed this to "your client connection is encrypted"
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#99Zoom is such a bizarre product. For huge video calls, it tends to perform as well or better than everything else out there. Yet at the same time it literally seems like straight-up malware and seems to violate your trust and privacy left and right every step of the way, even in the installer (!).
It was one of the fastest-growing SAAS companies before coronavirus hit despite all the free competition. The reason? "It just works." It's clear their singular focus on making it "just work" for even the least tech-savvy users has led them to prioritise user experience over security/privacy. I imagine a rebalancing is coming.
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#100SpaceX is strategic national defense, so this makes sense. I expect many similar companies to follow suit.
Seems like any organization under ITAR should prefer in-house solutions in areas relating to dissemination of sensitive design notes.