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Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by kolp »

callamdelaney wrote: post #83
bilbo0s wrote: post #38

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Why would his security people allow him to do that? Or do these guys just post this kind of stuff without even running it by their security folks? To me, this sounds like a security 101 type issue.

Every UK MP has his or her address listed publicly. In fact, this is a requirement to stand at election even at the town council level.

Doesn't have to be the candidate's home address. Some use the local constituency office address, for personal security and/or to avoid stalking by nutters.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by auscompgeek »

Roritharr wrote: post #232
distances wrote: post #174

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You can join Zoom meetings on your browser too. It's behind these twelve easy steps: 1. Go to zoom.com 2. Click "Join a meeting" 3. Enter meeting id and click Join 4. Ignore the automatic app download 5. Go back 6. Click "Join a meeting" again 7. Enter meeting id and click Join again 8. Ignore the app download again 9. Click at "If nothing prompts, click here" 10. Click "Join from your browser" 11. Agree to terms of…

What? That's crazy to hide such a useful feature!

The meeting host can enable the browser client link without the hassle in their settings. Unfortunately it's disabled by default.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by input_sh »

Leherenn wrote: post #231
jorvi wrote: post #199

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In general (moreso focused on the EU than the Brits) I've never understood why the EU doesn't pump a billion a year, or a billion worth of dev hours a year into open source. That's an absolutely tiny, almost infitismal amount of EU budget (and even tinier for most member states their budget) and it would allow them to get out of the noose of closed source corporate support contracts and being beholden to foreign comp…

It's not billions, but the EU is funding some open source software. https://hexus.net/tech/news/software/125747-14-open-source-p... I think France is also funding/developing Matrix.

FOSSA focuses on security audits, not development per se.

There's also EU Public License (EUPL). One notable example of software that uses it is Pi-hole.

One more interesting thing I can think of is Joinup, whose idea is to share solutions between administrations in the EU: https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by auscompgeek »

k__ wrote: post #250

I broke into a meeting by accident once. Someone sent me a meeting URL and I clicked it, to see if everything was right. Little did I know that people just get one Zoom URL for ALL of their meetings.

Each meeting gets its own ID. Of course, nothing prevents someone from reusing a meeting ID though.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by flurdy »

harry8 wrote: post #169
Zenst wrote: post #161

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Number 10 has had Video Conferencing since 1998 (I set it up with college and received first call from there), was H320 via ISDN2 affair and had dedicated black box encryption unit GCHQ supplied and dealt with. DOH (Department of Health) also had dedicated VC rooms as did all the regional officers and MCU bridging for multi point conferencing was outsourced when needed. All main DOH sites could do upto 384 with bonde…

>Also fairly sure GCHQ probably bashing their heads on the table. Not nearly hard enough. Not even close to hard enough. They need help with that, possibly with heavy machinery.

> > Also fairly sure GCHQ probably bashing their heads on the table.

Core parts of GCHQ might love the potential honey pot. But their offshoot NCSC [1] will be table-flipping big time.

* [1] https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/

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Post by mcny »

barrkel wrote: post #236
jorvi wrote: post #199

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In general (moreso focused on the EU than the Brits) I've never understood why the EU doesn't pump a billion a year, or a billion worth of dev hours a year into open source. That's an absolutely tiny, almost infitismal amount of EU budget (and even tinier for most member states their budget) and it would allow them to get out of the noose of closed source corporate support contracts and being beholden to foreign comp…

Whenever the government doles out money, the incentives are to do it in return for political favours. To counter that, various processes and institutions enforce checks and balances and accountability. In practice, that takes the form of grant applications, tendering, and the like. That then attracts a bunch of grifters who want to effectively steal the government's money, so the grant process get longer and more com…

> If a government anointed any given handful of OS organizations as preferred benefactors of donations, I'd expect grifters to infiltrate those organizations and parasitically siphon off the funds one way or another.

I’d expect companies like Raytheon, Cerner, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and HPE/CSC/DXC to win a supermajority of those contracts.

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Post by tikkabhuna »

k__ wrote: post #250

I broke into a meeting by accident once. Someone sent me a meeting URL and I clicked it, to see if everything was right. Little did I know that people just get one Zoom URL for ALL of their meetings.

You get a "Personal" meeting room, which keeps the same ID. You can then create other "named" meetings which gets a separate one. That then lets you have different passwords for different meetings.

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Post by toss4732 »

mavhc wrote: post #97
Uehreka wrote: post #23

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Part of it is that, (at least in my experience, maybe this has changed) Zoom can scale to a couple hundred people in a way that tools like Google Hangouts can't. But like, if we're being honest, it probably has a lot to do with how easy it is to start a Zoom call and invite people. You can host a 40 minute meeting for free. No one needs to sign up anywhere. It's super easy to install but also works in the browser if…

Skype meeting is just 1 url and no software or sign up, so that's even easier.

so, exactly the same as default zoom? not actually easier

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Post by nemacol »

syockit wrote: post #80
tqi wrote: post #36

It feels like the tech news cycle is so predictable... Stage 1: This company you probably hadn't heard of before is blowing up / changing the world! Stage 2 (current stage): Actually it turns out this company has some unexpected problems! Stage 3: Actually this company is actively contributing to society's One Big Problem! Stage 4: Actually here is why Zoom actually isn't as bad as everyone thinks! Stage 5: This OTHE…

I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?

My short time working in higher education taught me that zoom is baked into some education software. If I recall it is part of the barns and noble cloud education suite.

With the lock down, more online classes, more people seeing the Zoom logo?

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by thrownaway954 »

my homegroup switched over to zoom a couple of weeks ago and i have to say, i love it. like most of you, i'm sitting all day and to be able to join in an aa meeting while walking outside is AMAZING! i can finally get some exercise and not feel like i have to sacrifice one or the other.

to the people of zoom, thank you for making this time in our life a lot more pleasurable.

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