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Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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I should have phrased that differently. I know it's largely parts of the 4chan crowd. But who are those boards? Why are the people who go there so nuts? Do you ever wonder if you've unknowingly met these people in real life? Chances are we all have, right? How do they manage to be so terrible and then go on with their lives?

I recently finished reading We Are the Nerds , which is about the history of Reddit (the company) and its community. One of the interesting parts was about the moderator of a bunch of subreddits that were full of all kinds of borderline illegal and definitely illegal content (u/violentacrez, if you feel the need to Google for yourself). If you're a long-time Reddit user, you probably already know this, but here goes:…

> I'm not entirely certain what motivates people to act like that online when they're relatively normal offline, but it seems to be a somewhat common occurrence.

Anonymity probably?

I'm a pretty normal dude offline, your average American programmer. On reddit I'm in all socialist/communist subreddits talking about revolution 24/7. Intellectually I agree with intersectional Marxism, but I don't feel comfortable enough to discuss these in real life, and I don't care enough to (or am too lazy to) act upon these ideas in real life. So, when I go to reddit I become "a different person", not because I try to be this person, but the comfort of anonymity allows me to express my ideas easier.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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What else?

For one, Michael Gove's username appears to be the first part of an email address...

Why is the exposing of a government employee's email address a security risk to you?

Edit, because downvotes: government email addresses can be retrieved easily through public records laws, and is done routinely, and can easily be scraped or inferred. I've done both many, many times, and it's trivial.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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It feels like the tech news cycle is so predictable... Stage 1: This company you probably hadn't heard of before is blowing up / changing the world! Stage 2 (current stage): Actually it turns out this company has some unexpected problems! Stage 3: Actually this company is actively contributing to society's One Big Problem! Stage 4: Actually here is why Zoom actually isn't as bad as everyone thinks! Stage 5: This OTHE…

I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?

It haven't spent 10 years being slowly killed by Microsoft's worst product practices.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Not going to defend a bunch of trolls, if that's what you're implying. However, if we don't secure our systems, what do we expect? If there were no bad-actors in the world, people like tptacek would be out of work. What a glorious world it would be, no need for locked doors, fences, passwords, pin codes and more - but that's not the world we live in. Instead, we're in a world where Zoom has laughable security for bar…

I'm a software developer. I would just work on some other problem amenable to software.

Forest and trees?

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Is this a joke? 4chan is the well-known internet forum/image board. https://www.4chan.org/

Yikes. Looks like a pretty misogynistic place.

4chan is a huge website with a lot of different communities like reddit.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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>"the primary way people communicate and gather for personal or professional reasons", I would be curious to see an article about why this happened? Is Zoom better than their countless competitors? They all seem pretty similar in my experience so why is it Zoom that is blowing up because of this and not any of the other companies?

Part of it is that, (at least in my experience, maybe this has changed) Zoom can scale to a couple hundred people in a way that tools like Google Hangouts can't. But like, if we're being honest, it probably has a lot to do with how easy it is to start a Zoom call and invite people. You can host a 40 minute meeting for free. No one needs to sign up anywhere. It's super easy to install but also works in the browser if…

Skype meeting is just 1 url and no software or sign up, so that's even easier.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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For one, Michael Gove's username appears to be the first part of an email address...

Why is the exposing of a government employee's email address a security risk to you? Edit, because downvotes: government email addresses can be retrieved easily through public records laws, and is done routinely, and can easily be scraped or inferred. I've done both many, many times, and it's trivial.

Well at the very least it presents a soft target for hacking into his personal email adddress (it's gmail not govenrment) and secondly, compromising it literally gives you access to dial into cabinet meetings.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Why is the exposing of a government employee's email address a security risk to you? Edit, because downvotes: government email addresses can be retrieved easily through public records laws, and is done routinely, and can easily be scraped or inferred. I've done both many, many times, and it's trivial.

Well at the very least it presents a soft target for hacking into his personal email adddress (it's gmail not govenrment) and secondly, compromising it literally gives you access to dial into cabinet meetings.

Read my edit. Email addresses can be received through public records requests routinely. It's a public record!

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?

It just works. Never used Jitsi, but the experience is far superior to Skype and Webex.

Could you elaborate on this? In what way is it superior?
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