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Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by tptacek »

Alupis wrote: post #25
edoceo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahh yes, the old ends justifying the means.

Not going to defend a bunch of trolls, if that's what you're implying. However, if we don't secure our systems, what do we expect? If there were no bad-actors in the world, people like tptacek would be out of work. What a glorious world it would be, no need for locked doors, fences, passwords, pin codes and more - but that's not the world we live in. Instead, we're in a world where Zoom has laughable security for bar…

I'm a software developer. I would just work on some other problem amenable to software.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by consultutah »

dzonga wrote: post #52

if FB didn't have privacy nightmares. They're well equipped to providing the solutions to the enterprise market. given that they probably have the most stable live video platforms which could be modified to support secure meetings

Right now zoom is going through a honeymoon phase. Only us geeks care about its security and privacy. After this is over though, people will start thinking it through and things will look a lot more like how FaceBook is viewed right now...

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Post by Retric »

roywiggins wrote: post #43
bilbo0s wrote: post #38

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Why would his security people allow him to do that? Or do these guys just post this kind of stuff without even running it by their security folks? To me, this sounds like a security 101 type issue.

How would they stop him? Wrestle the phone out of his hands? He's in quarantine, anyway. Nobody is in the room with him. The current UK PM is not the type to ask experts about whether it's a good idea, anyway.

Quarantine does not mean someone is alone. Just that their isolated from most of humanity.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by roywiggins »

Retric wrote: post #73
roywiggins wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would they stop him? Wrestle the phone out of his hands? He's in quarantine, anyway. Nobody is in the room with him. The current UK PM is not the type to ask experts about whether it's a good idea, anyway.

Quarantine does not mean someone is alone. Just that their isolated from most of humanity.

It's not much of a quarantine if he's locked in with all his staff.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/boris-johnson-co...

> Johnson, on his doctor’s recommendation, has withdrawn into his chambers for seven days and will forgo all public appearances and in-person group meetings. He will have his food left at the door to his apartment, his aides said.

> “He’s self-isolating in his flat,” said his official spokesman.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by deoxxa »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #54
zionic wrote: post #40

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4chan

I should have phrased that differently. I know it's largely parts of the 4chan crowd. But who are those boards? Why are the people who go there so nuts? Do you ever wonder if you've unknowingly met these people in real life? Chances are we all have, right? How do they manage to be so terrible and then go on with their lives?

4chan is a big place with a long history. It's kind of like 50 different websites and communities under one domain, where there's surprisingly little overlap between them all. I think you'd find that most people who visit the less notorious boards on 4chan are your totally normal geek crowd.

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Post by HarryHirsch »

YarickR2 wrote: post #59
Alupis wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not going to defend a bunch of trolls, if that's what you're implying. However, if we don't secure our systems, what do we expect? If there were no bad-actors in the world, people like tptacek would be out of work. What a glorious world it would be, no need for locked doors, fences, passwords, pin codes and more - but that's not the world we live in. Instead, we're in a world where Zoom has laughable security for bar…

I hope you're wearing a hard hat at all times; if not - then it's your fault when complete stranger smashes you with a brick. Who you will be mad at after that ?

Come on, Adolf Hitler has participated in Kahoot games ever since Kahoot was invented.

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Post by L-four »

Thorentis wrote: post #58
verytrivial wrote: post #17

https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534... Yes, shared by the Prime Minister, number and all. What a time to be alive.

I'm surprised they're even allowed to use Zoom for a national cabinet meeting. Wouldn't the Gov have its own video chatting software that is self hosted?

Yeah, but you have take your computer to the IT team.

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Post by matz1 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #54
zionic wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4chan

I should have phrased that differently. I know it's largely parts of the 4chan crowd. But who are those boards? Why are the people who go there so nuts? Do you ever wonder if you've unknowingly met these people in real life? Chances are we all have, right? How do they manage to be so terrible and then go on with their lives?

Is it really surprising ? Not everyone wired the same. For some people they think its fun. Its just human.

Re: Trolls break into meetings on Zoom

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Post by syockit »

tqi wrote: post #36

It feels like the tech news cycle is so predictable... Stage 1: This company you probably hadn't heard of before is blowing up / changing the world! Stage 2 (current stage): Actually it turns out this company has some unexpected problems! Stage 3: Actually this company is actively contributing to society's One Big Problem! Stage 4: Actually here is why Zoom actually isn't as bad as everyone thinks! Stage 5: This OTHE…

I am out of the loop as to why Zoom is suddenly "blowing up". Even my workplace is using it now. Previously, we were using either Skype, Webex, or Jitsi. What does Zoom offer that the other three doesn't?
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