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Absolutely not true. In cruise, stabilized, especially with AP - the margins are MUCH MUCH higher. Pilots have fallen asleep (two of them) - overflown airports still landed etc.
I think major difference is commercial airliner vs say fighter jet. As a layman it still seems pretty wrong to make most of the screen highly dynamic. Maybe designated one on the side. Back to the topic - in car, unless specifically intended for other passengers, driver should never stare on some stupid screen in a place way off the line of sight for driving. Whenever I do that even for a split second in my 15-year o…
Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
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Touch screens add multiple points of failure to a device that, if properly built, would last decades. A single glitch in a software driving a screen could render useless all touch inputs displayed on it, information loss aside. I'm all for mechanical switches everywhere. As for potentiometers, sliders etc, we already have optical and mechanical encoders that hardly fail, or if/when they do, it happens gracefully leav…
Multiple physical knobs and buttons add multiple points of failure: moving parts fail and even worse, they often fail intermittently. We all have that experience. Even optical encoders fail (I’ve had one fail on an engine, and obviously consumer mice, or the connectors fail). A modern touch screen is superbly reliable because it has no moving parts, and it can be tested. The (consumer grade) iPad touchscreen is very…
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Is taking your hands off the steering wheel much better? Ideally, all controls would be available on the steering wheel without removing either hand. Or, as you say, voice controls.
This is a great example of when "perfect is the enemy of good". Humans have pretty good spatial reasoning (proprioception); the notion that touch controls should replace tactile well-spaced controls is dependent on the fact that both senses (sight, spatial awareness) are uncontested. I would argue the point that sight is already in-use and must not be interfered with, if there's an alternative that does not use the s…
Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
#444If Honda is "bucking a trend" here it just shows how much professionals, experts and decision-makers can be fooled by trends. I speculate that Tesla made it something other luxury brands wanted too, and then those brands went bezerk: E.g. the newest Range Rover models feature multiple touch screens, they turned your AC-control-knobs into touch-screens as well, and even the once-handy controls on your steering wheel.…
Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
#445Try it today. In an old car, set the fan speed to off. Then adjust the temperature. Switch it back and forth a few times and test it.
In a new car you need to turn the fan on, then change the temperature and then turn it off again, in order to change the "off" temperature.
On a touch screen this task requires many seconds of eyes-off-the-road-time to accomplish.
But hey, designers need flexibility because changing temperature is a new concept and they couldn't possibly handle a deadline to work with component selection and other parts of the product team.
Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
#446Look at the cockpit of any modern airliner and you will see screens, but they are never interactive. There are hardware buttons, dials and lights all over the place. A tactile interface is both more obvious, sturdy and more stable, and therefore safer. The problem that touch interfaces solve, ever since the advent of the first smart phone, is that the interface is now dynamic. You can change it without having to repl…
Didn't the US Navy try this and end up crashing a destroyer or something?
> The US Navy is replacing touch screen controls on destroyers, after the displays were implicated in collisions.
Unfamiliarity with the touch screens contributed to two accidents that caused the deaths of 17 sailors, said incident reports.
Poor training meant sailors did not know how to use the complex systems in emergencies, they said.
Sailors "overwhelmingly" preferred to control ships with wheels and throttles, surveys of crew found.
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Under VFR sure, obviously under IFR they are looking at the instruments as much as 100% of the time, including the instruments which inform them if planes are nearby, and instruments which inform them of their location, direction, and all of the variables therein. It would be madness if pilots had to rely solely on their eyes to locate other planes nearby. There is thankfully instruments which do this as well.
In VMC you still have a responsibility to see and avoid, regardless of whether you're on an instrument flight plan or not. (Ref: Regulation 14 CFR Part 91.113 (b)) Radar coverage has become ubiquitous in most places, but there's not universal coverage. Heads-up time is very important unless you're flying in actual IMC.
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Appeal to authority is an informal fallacy of logic. It can/should never be used to prove an argument.
Sure, if everyone is an expert on the subject, or is willing to spend the time to become one, you should never appeal to authority. That's not most people on most subjects. If someone appeals to authority and says "climate change is real, here's 100 scientists with PhDs who agree" I accept that. I am not willing to become an expert on the subject to be able to spend the time to review the facts for myself. Citing sou…
Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls
#449Look at the cockpit of any modern airliner and you will see screens, but they are never interactive. There are hardware buttons, dials and lights all over the place. A tactile interface is both more obvious, sturdy and more stable, and therefore safer. The problem that touch interfaces solve, ever since the advent of the first smart phone, is that the interface is now dynamic. You can change it without having to repl…
I work for an avionics manufacturer and I can assure you most of our upcoming comercial systems (and even a healthy portion of government ones) feature touch screen inputs.