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Re: Microsoft: Cloud services demand up, prioritization rules in place

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Post by wtallis »

lend000 wrote: post #199
wtallis wrote: post #196

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And in the next lecture, you learn that factories can't be retooled overnight, and people die in the meantime.

Masks are not complex. It does not need to be an N95 certified mask to significantly reduce respirated droplets. You would be surprised by the ingenuity of entrepreneurs, but of course, this thread is not about logic but instead about jealousy of others' abilities to profit in a way that some people think is unethical, despite the fact that it would undeniably result in more masks to combat this crisis. In reality, m…

> this thread is not about logic but instead about jealousy of others' abilities to profit in a way that some people think is unethical, despite the fact that it would undeniably result in more masks to combat this crisis. In reality, most of the people with your viewpoint cannot envision themselves scrapping together something and pivoting their entire business on such a short time frame, and they share the relatively common personality trait in which they then don't want others to succeed where they do not.

Were you trying to see how many HN rules you could violate in a single post?

Re: Microsoft: Cloud services demand up, prioritization rules in place

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Post by [deleted] »

wtallis wrote: post #261
lend000 wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Masks are not complex. It does not need to be an N95 certified mask to significantly reduce respirated droplets. You would be surprised by the ingenuity of entrepreneurs, but of course, this thread is not about logic but instead about jealousy of others' abilities to profit in a way that some people think is unethical, despite the fact that it would undeniably result in more masks to combat this crisis. In reality, m…

> this thread is not about logic but instead about jealousy of others' abilities to profit in a way that some people think is unethical, despite the fact that it would undeniably result in more masks to combat this crisis. In reality, most of the people with your viewpoint cannot envision themselves scrapping together something and pivoting their entire business on such a short time frame, and they share the relative…

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Re: Microsoft: Cloud services demand up, prioritization rules in place

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Post by mr_toad »

bowmessage wrote: post #194
ineedasername wrote: post #131

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Yes, and they also say that if you're hitting quotas, you can try another less congested region. If you have established workloads in a region though, I'm not sure how quickly you can migrate a complex interplay of services to another region-- are there simple tools to do so in Azure?

hopefully you are writing infrastructure as code - would be easy then.

I doubt they’re talking about their compute services. The increases are more likely in Microsoft teams and Office 365. And as far as I know you can’t choose a region for those services.

Re: Microsoft: Cloud services demand up, prioritization rules in place

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Post by neop1x »

crazygringo wrote: post #6

Wow. First of all, I'm curious to what proportions this is driven primarily by remote office work (O365), videoconferencing streaming, recreational video streaming (does Disney+ run on Azure?), or what. But second... I'm fascinated by the concept of prioritization rules in place rather than simply raising prices. I wonder if it "looks bad" to raise prices, or if the vast majority of customers already have locked-in p…

It looks like they failed miserably on capacity planning. I thought that those three major clouds are that ridiculously expensive (egress cost, huh?!) just because of guarantees of the capacity and service availability but that seems to be wrong at least for Azure.

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Post by BoorishBears »

BoorishBears wrote: post #213
aianus wrote: post #187

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High prices encourage people like me who have more than enough to get off their asses and share the excess. There is already plenty of TP in existence in the country for everyone, it’s just poorly distributed because the gov has removed the incentive for the TP-haves to distribute it better towards the TP-have-nots. Or, more to the point of the article, there is no incentive for someone with a useless side project to…

> High prices encourage people like me who have more than enough to get off their asses and share the excess. > the gov has removed the incentive for the TP-haves to distribute it better towards the TP-have-nots. Really? > I have an entire Costco package of toilet paper that will last me months while some poor bastard near me is probably wiping his ass with his hand (or worse... This is not a reason to you? Some peop…

I forgot, on HN you’re supposed to be an emotionless robot (like half these people are in real life), talking about morals is illegal.

Re: Microsoft: Cloud services demand up, prioritization rules in place

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Post by what_ever »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #247
what_ever wrote: post #208

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Looks like you are repeating the same comment everywhere without linking at what kind of outages GCP had. Disc: Googler

It made the front page, so most readers here are already at least passingly aware of it.

Sorry I should have been more clear in my comment. I meant to emphasize that the outages were not related to COVID-19. So there is no point of repeating the same thing everywhere as it is not relevant.

Re: Microsoft: Cloud services demand up, prioritization rules in place

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Post by what_ever »

kekskeks wrote: post #215
what_ever wrote: post #208

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Looks like you are repeating the same comment everywhere without linking at what kind of outages GCP had. Disc: Googler

https://www.ciodive.com/news/google-cloud-platform-outage/57...

Yup, that was my point but I failed to clarify in the first comment.

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Post by discordance »

techntoke wrote: post #258
discordance wrote: post #170

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I don't get how they are profiteering out of this. The prices haven't changed from before the pandemic. What's happening now is unprecedented. Without public cloud providers, most businesses would not be able to run this giant work-from-home experiment. If they were hosted on-prem then they couldn't scale either.

Why couldn't they scale on-prem? Setting up Kubernetes on a bunch of servers for distributed workloads isn't that difficult these days.

A lot of companies don't have people that know or can maintain a Kubernetes cluster.

It's not difficult to bake my own bread, but I don't.

Re: Microsoft: Cloud services demand up, prioritization rules in place

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Post by modmans2nd »

crazygringo wrote: post #6

Wow. First of all, I'm curious to what proportions this is driven primarily by remote office work (O365), videoconferencing streaming, recreational video streaming (does Disney+ run on Azure?), or what. But second... I'm fascinated by the concept of prioritization rules in place rather than simply raising prices. I wonder if it "looks bad" to raise prices, or if the vast majority of customers already have locked-in p…

Healthcare and first responders shouldn’t have to pay more to get the server resources they need to respond to Covid 19

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Post by modmans2nd »

thecatspaw wrote: post #219
bane wrote: post #192

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We had started tentatively using teams before all this. Now it's a critical part of our day-to-day functioning and you know what? It's not bad, not bad at all. It's pretty well thought out, reliable, integrated with Outlook and Sharepoint. Even the few people who complained that they wouldn't use it because there wasn't a phone number to call for telecons were overcome when we told them to just install the app and jo…

I still absolutely loathe teams. There is no way to get it to show you have unread messages (the red dot of slack). Notifications do not work reliably. When I am in a Teams channel I miss notifications from the Chat channels, and vice versa. For me Teams has been a major downgrade from Slack

I get a count of the messages I missed in a channel and when I’m called out I see an @

I get all the activity I should be alerted to in my alerts button too so document conversation, hidden teams, etc all show up there too.

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