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Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by mgalgs »

minton wrote: post #91
hannob wrote: post #54

If anyone else - like me - has tried updating the kernel this morning and figured out wifi with an intel card was broken: It seems they broke the iwlwifi driver [1] and here [2] is the patch to fix it. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.... [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.g...

Being worried about the current trajectory of macOS, I’ve been thinking more and more about Linux and imagining how far it must have come since I last used it in the early 2000s. Reading things like this really dampen my enthusiasm for trying Linux again.

If you're running Linus' master branch, yes, things are going to break from time to time.

Stick to LTS releases (which is what most distros use) and you'll be fine.

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by majewsky »

emilsedgh wrote: post #125
wiz21c wrote: post #87

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not as simple as that. For example, on debian buster, the Discover search bar doesn't work if used several times; the favorites in the start menu sometimes reappear after being deleted; when I quit kmail by using the windows close button, Kmail complains it exited in an unexpected way, etc. These are not little quirks, these are apparent in a normal daily usage. I use Windows at work and it's past those issues. But y…

I had to login to my windows once. I had to install itunes to backup my phone. The button to install itunes was not working. It threw a very generic error message. And that seemed to be the only way to install itunes (Apple's webpages pointed to Windows store). Took me hours to find and install an alternative third party itunes installer from random untrusted sources. Windows, quality-wise, is simply unbearable for m…

Oh yeah, by the way, disclosure: Me too. :)

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by ryantgtg »

nextos wrote: post #99
minton wrote: post #91

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Being worried about the current trajectory of macOS, I’ve been thinking more and more about Linux and imagining how far it must have come since I last used it in the early 2000s. Reading things like this really dampen my enthusiasm for trying Linux again.

Glitches like this are very infrequent if you run well chosen hardware. If you run e.g. an all-Intel setup which is a few months old, it's rare. If you are afraid of things getting broken, simply use NixOS. All upgrades can be easily rolled back, and you can freeze updates of some packages, or get packages through different channels with different stability compromises. I prefer to get everything through rolling rele…

They’re also infrequent if you hold off on updating immediately after a release. Just wait for distro/package managers to check things and release it to you!

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by sigotirandolas »

asveikau wrote: post #106
minton wrote: post #91

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Being worried about the current trajectory of macOS, I’ve been thinking more and more about Linux and imagining how far it must have come since I last used it in the early 2000s. Reading things like this really dampen my enthusiasm for trying Linux again.

When I started using Linux in the 90s, especially because I was young and enthusiastic, sure, I would grab tarballs from kernel.org and build them on the day of release. That is simply not how it works anymore. Your distro vets the kernels. They patch them. They ensure that if that well known Intel wifi bug is still around that the patch is applied (note it already exists!) or better yet already in-tree. A late break…

As for me personally, since a few releases I've taken the vice of waiting on Sunday midnight for building the new kernel release and seeing what's new and what's broken :)

Judging from the bug reports, there's still quite a few people building the latest kernels - mostly from poweruser distros like Arch and Gentoo.

If you use Ubuntu, Debian or CentOS, then yes, you're going to get an old and boring^W^W^W^W^W^Wstable kernel. But there's still enough of us around on cutting edge, I guess.

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by tracker1 »

jklinger410 wrote: post #128
tracker1 wrote: post #13

Upgraded to a system with an X570 motherboard and an RX 5700 XT graphics card... for the most part, since Kernel 5.3, every release has been more stable and mostly better performing... though having to manually download drivers a couple times from the kernel git repo has been a pain, I really appreciate the effort. ----- Rant ahead... If only the front end could button up more... Gnome's blank screen + password seems…

I had to disable the lock screen on GNOME/Ubuntu to get it to work so I feel you there. I am on Focal Fossa and after a full update the lock screen bug was actually fixed, although I have it disabled anyway. Just FYI.

May give gnome a try again after the update releases... I had it configured the way I wanted... but the lock screen not going away, and over the top of everything was a huge fail, and annoying the more I am using my desktop now (since wfh due to human malware).

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by tracker1 »

dirtydroog wrote: post #48
tracker1 wrote: post #34

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And when I tried to install KVM, it errored because the kernel I was using is unsupported and it didn't install, which is specifically what I pointed out... same for VirtualBox... I didn't go VMWare as I don't want to outlay the cost of VMWare Workstation.

VMWare Player is free for non-commercial use. https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/free#desktop_end_user_co...

You cannot create a VM in VMWare Player. And since this would be for work projects, it wouldn't be non-commercial use.

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by emilsedgh »

majewsky wrote: post #132
emilsedgh wrote: post #125

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I had to login to my windows once. I had to install itunes to backup my phone. The button to install itunes was not working. It threw a very generic error message. And that seemed to be the only way to install itunes (Apple's webpages pointed to Windows store). Took me hours to find and install an alternative third party itunes installer from random untrusted sources. Windows, quality-wise, is simply unbearable for m…

Oh yeah, by the way, disclosure: Me too. :)

That's pretty awesome I actually remember you, you had contributions on KDE Games. I used to maintain some of the KDE websites including games.kde.org when I was young.

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by buster »

tracker1 wrote: post #34
buster wrote: post #18

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> As to why the switch back, I couldn't use a VM, as most of the stuff didn't yet support the ahead of LTS kernel I was using, and I needed that for hardware stability. Did you know that Windows VMs work quite well in KVM and Gnome Boxes is a nice GUI to just install and run a Windows VM? Just asking, because for me it's the first time i'm not using VMWare or Virtualbox but still have the Windows VM for the occasiona…

And when I tried to install KVM, it errored because the kernel I was using is unsupported and it didn't install, which is specifically what I pointed out... same for VirtualBox... I didn't go VMWare as I don't want to outlay the cost of VMWare Workstation.

I didn't know that i have to "install" KVM.. isn't it Linux Kernel based and shouldn't even have the problem?

Re: Linux 5.6

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Post by est31 »

stingraycharles wrote: post #30
est31 wrote: post #23

Linux 5.6 is getting Wireguard, Linux 5.7 will be getting exfat. It's a great year for the kernel.

What is special about exfat? I see it’s a variant of FAT32 that allows for more than 4GB, and is mainly for creating USBs? Does this mean it will improve interop with Windows?

It's the most advanced file system that's supported on all major desktop operating systems (Windows, Mac). Linux is only catching up here. So it's becoming the ideal file system for USB sticks. Even if you just care about Windows and Linux, NTFS is not a safe option to share data. I've had too many issues with the available drivers for Linux.

Even if you are just sharing between Linux computers, ext2 is no good option, because of uid/gid values being inconsistent between computers. ext2 wasn't made with this use case in mind.

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