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From Spain to Germany, farmers warn of fresh food shortages

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Re: From Spain to Germany, farmers warn of fresh food shortages

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Tangentially related, NPR aired an interview the other day with undocumented migrant workers (in the US) living very close together when traveling (sleeping sitting up together in a van) and having very limited access to water for bathing and hygiene when lodging at farms where they were working picking produce; it's likely this causes grave loss of life in the migrant community, and decimates produce farms economica…

Undocumented migrants have for all effect become the modern day equivalent of slavery without the associated compasion. Many happy to lambast such people and yet, be first to complain if their avocados go up in price or out of stock. Hopefully, some level of amnisty and clean slate is driven here as currently without that, will only shoot themselves in the foot on many levels. After all, many live day by day, kinda h…

I suspect that the groups of people that lament undocumented workers and those that enjoy avocado toast don’t overlap much. The former are conservatives, the latter are generally young, city dwelling liberals.

Re: From Spain to Germany, farmers warn of fresh food shortages

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>> And people were saying that we will never see a famine in Asia in the 21st century. That optimism was premature... I wonder whether people will decide to take their chances with the coronavirus if faced with famine? Something tells me that people will risk it with the coronavirus rather than die of starvation.

At some point enough harvests will be missed because of lockdown that famines become inevitable. The choice to risk it will probably me made too late. Not sure why I'm getting downvoted. Food takes months to grow and needs to be harvested within a short window. By the time people realize there's a famine coming it will be too late. Just look at how we could have prepared in January for this virus if people weren't so…

which country (except China in Hubei) actually locked down agriculture?

Re: From Spain to Germany, farmers warn of fresh food shortages

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Why do you get a chuckle? Can you explain?

Because it’s seemingly impossible to pay farm workers real money but fast food workers? No problem!

The minimum wage would apply to everyone. Both fast food workers and farm workers. What is your point?

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Coworkers in Shenzhen are already saying that more fancier foods are already getting scarcer in the inland China, and prices are going up by day. China has done a massive livestock slaughter campaign when the quarantine was declared. That has actually depressed the food prices quite a bit for the first months, but after that, the prices have shot up. This is how they got that much meat: https://mustsharenews.com/wp-c…

Worst case with meat shortages, they'll just have to eat the corn and soy they were feeding to the animals or process the grains into grain based meat substitutes. In general grain production is very automated so there won't be as much of an issue with labor issues in the US or South America impacting the global supply of grain compared to fruits and vegetables.

Animal feed is often under less stringent regulations than food meant for human consumption.

Re: From Spain to Germany, farmers warn of fresh food shortages

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Tangentially related, NPR aired an interview the other day with undocumented migrant workers (in the US) living very close together when traveling (sleeping sitting up together in a van) and having very limited access to water for bathing and hygiene when lodging at farms where they were working picking produce; it's likely this causes grave loss of life in the migrant community, and decimates produce farms economica…

Tangentially related: Yet another reason why illegal aliens must be expelled from the country and not allowed to return unless through legal means. Of course Republicans love illegal labor because it's cheap and Democrats love it because they don't believe in borders anymore. Thus the American people and the American worker must wage a two front war against two selfish and entrenched political classes.

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Re: From Spain to Germany, farmers warn of fresh food shortages

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Your second link goes to a still image. I assume you mean this [1] video? Though I don't see how that supports the statement that China has spent a big portion of its national reserve. [1] https://twitter.com/laurie_garrett/status/122072527639456563...

China imports a gigantic amount of food, and ports were first to be hit by disruption . As a person who works in OEM electronics in China, I can tell at least that. So, at any normal day, China would've been eating 30-32% of world's food by value, while producing 20% of it by itself. Agriculture has been on shutdown for the past 2.5 months. Farms have slaughtered a large portion of their livestock, and a big portion…

I stand corrected, but I think the meat reserves were touched first to keep prices down with the african swine plague?

Re: From Spain to Germany, farmers warn of fresh food shortages

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Crayfish in NZ is the size of lobster in the US.

Technically, they're langoustine.

Literally, they are kōura. Technically, they are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasus_edwardsii

Edit: the dictionary says langoustine are another species, although one of the joys of English is making it mean what you want!

Re: From Spain to Germany, farmers warn of fresh food shortages

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> crayfish (lobster in US) Crayfish is crawfish in the US, not lobster

Crayfish in NZ is the size of lobster in the US.

[EDITED. I was talking of the wrong species]

There are some giant crayfishes in Australia. Much bigger than the standard old world crayfishes. Some (Cherax) can be raised in captivity and are very similar to lobsters in size and color, except that they are non marine.

Closing sea ports should not to be a problem for those species at short term (as long as there are reserves of crayfish food remaining of course).

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