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Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Post by t-writescode »

pinkfoot wrote: post #283
fit2rule wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oldest continually running mining operation of mankind. Longest running school. A Hippocratic oath before Europeans genocided them. Forms of agriculture which literally guaranteed a well-fed populace. An understanding of antiseptic materials, and even micro-biology, in an age of European miasma theory and blood-letting. There is much to learn about oneself once you drop the prejudice. I'm not suggesting we haven't "a…

> There is much to learn about oneself once you drop the prejudice. Oh get over yourself - I asked "out of genuine curiosity."

I think that was the ‘general you’ not you

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Post by ctchocula »

as-j wrote: post #37

As an early morning runner in SF, I see coyotes in SF every week or two, including at Twin peaks as mentioned in the article. One morning in Golden Gate Park I warned a few people walkings dogs since there were about 4 coyotes around the corner. From my first hand experience, I'd assume any wooded area with cover in SF has a coyote living there.

What advice do you have for dealing with coyotes when jogging? I've learned the hard way that running away tends to trigger their fight-or-flight reflex, which isn't good.

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Post by hmahncke »

simonw wrote: post #7

The first time I saw a Coyote was in broad daylight up on Corona Heights in San Francisco. I'd never even seen a photo of one before, but I knew what it was straight away because its face looked like Wile E Coyote!

After all these years in SF, every time I see a coyote my first thought is still "why is that German Shepherd so underfed?"

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Post by fit2rule »

pinkfoot wrote: post #283
fit2rule wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oldest continually running mining operation of mankind. Longest running school. A Hippocratic oath before Europeans genocided them. Forms of agriculture which literally guaranteed a well-fed populace. An understanding of antiseptic materials, and even micro-biology, in an age of European miasma theory and blood-letting. There is much to learn about oneself once you drop the prejudice. I'm not suggesting we haven't "a…

> There is much to learn about oneself once you drop the prejudice. Oh get over yourself - I asked "out of genuine curiosity."

>Other thank some claims about land management and herbal medicine, what were that not only more advanced in but FAR more advanced?

Snark detected.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Post by clairity »

tzs wrote: post #216
clairity wrote: post #123

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they're super cute, but will claw and bite you viciously if threatened. there used to be a couple in my neighborhood in LA and i'd hear them fighting sometimes (when not raiding trash cans). they're also a rabies vector. but generally, they'll leave you alone if you leave them alone.

Do you mean LA as in Los Angeles or as in Louisiana? If it is Los Angeles, then rabies from raccoons is not really a worry. The raccoon rabies reservoir in the United States is just in populations in the southeastern, mid-Atlantic, and northeastern states. Raccoons can be downright creepy, though, in the right circumstances: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW-6MxobUeU

that video is funny and very cute. but yes, los angeles, and that's good to know.

growing up out in the country taught me to not worry too much about wild animals generally, but that any animal can be dangerous under stress (including humans!).

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Post by knolax »

JshWright wrote: post #288
knolax wrote: post #243

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> Aztec > before collapsing (and before Columbus) In the alternate universe you come from, who was fighting Cortez?

They weren't referring to Columbus as the person who conquered South/Central America (there were quite a few conquistadors involved there... not just Cortez). They were referring to the arrival of Columbus as the watershed moment that signal the arrival of Europeans en masse to the Americas.

I'm not saying they were referring to Columbus as the person who conquered Central America. I was amused by GP's insinuation that the Aztecs had somehow collapsed before Columbus.

> Maya, Toltec, and Aztec societies deforested Central America quite significantly before collapsing (and before Columbus).

On a second reading it seems that GP had most likely meant that they were deforesting before Columbus, not that they had collpased before Columbus, but it's still strange to refer to getting conquered as a "collapse".

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

ctchocula wrote: post #292
as-j wrote: post #37

As an early morning runner in SF, I see coyotes in SF every week or two, including at Twin peaks as mentioned in the article. One morning in Golden Gate Park I warned a few people walkings dogs since there were about 4 coyotes around the corner. From my first hand experience, I'd assume any wooded area with cover in SF has a coyote living there.

What advice do you have for dealing with coyotes when jogging? I've learned the hard way that running away tends to trigger their fight-or-flight reflex, which isn't good.

Coyotes are basically dogs with cat software. They’re pretty skiddish. Usually stomping or clapping will make them go away.

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Post by jedberg »

tclancy wrote: post #273
jedberg wrote: post #222

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It turns out there is no where you can go in the United States that is more than 20 miles from a paved road.

Is there a citation for that? I’d guess there are large parts of northern Maine that only have logging roads.

There are a bunch of articles about it but nothing scientific. For example:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42104894

And it turns out I was wrong. There is one spot 21.7 miles away from a road deep in Wyoming.

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Post by vhost- »

taxidump wrote: post #187
dmurray wrote: post #178

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I thought the Nextdoor crowd were more concerned about coons.

And fireworks

And they gotta let everyone know they REALLY don’t like it when you put dog poop bags in their trash cans.

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Post by bdamm »

jedberg wrote: post #298
tclancy wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a citation for that? I’d guess there are large parts of northern Maine that only have logging roads.

There are a bunch of articles about it but nothing scientific. For example: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42104894 And it turns out I was wrong. There is one spot 21.7 miles away from a road deep in Wyoming.

This is highly dubious. Logging roads might be considered "roads" but some are passable only by heavy equipment. If you have to stop and repair the road every few hundred meters then I don't think it counts as a road.
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