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The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

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Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

jolux wrote: post #39
oefrha wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t even draw that conclusion. NetNewsWire is very old school with an old fan base, and outside its existing fan base I don’t think it’s particularly relevant today (sorry). I doubt a user new to RSS or new to RSS reader on Apple platforms today would land on NNW. (I’m a longtime Reeder user.)

The new NNW is a total rewrite which started off as a different app.

Kinda. The original NetNewsWire was made by the same guy behind the current NetNewsWire. It's just that there was a period in between where NetNewsWire was owned and developed by someone else.

Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

#42

Post by jolux »

webwielder2 wrote: post #7
anoncareer0212 wrote: post #3

Apple fan/dev here: he's an old school Mac influencer who got famous for writing the first popular Mac RSS client, and blind to the effects his particular narrative would have on those numbers - it's the same 30,000 people who are hip to Mac blog culture, not independent discovery on two separate platforms

The Venn diagram of people who use BBedit and NetNewswire is roughly a circle.

What am I missing about BBEdit? I’ve tried to get into it a few times and it just seems archaic and weird and less capable vs even my emacs setup, let alone something like Visual Studio Code these days.

Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

#43

Post by withakay »

webwielder2 wrote: post #7
anoncareer0212 wrote: post #3

Apple fan/dev here: he's an old school Mac influencer who got famous for writing the first popular Mac RSS client, and blind to the effects his particular narrative would have on those numbers - it's the same 30,000 people who are hip to Mac blog culture, not independent discovery on two separate platforms

The Venn diagram of people who use BBedit and NetNewswire is roughly a circle.

As, I expect, is the Venn diagram of those that use NetNewswire on macOS and those that use it on iOS.

Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

#44

Post by sdegutis »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #40
sdegutis wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus the experience of Electron apps is generally superior lately. Look and feel may not be as consistent as the ideal but it generally never was in the first place, even among native Cocoa apps. The web has won on desktop.

> Plus the experience of Electron apps is generally superior lately Uh, I'm going to hard disagree on that. They take longer to open, they're slower to use, they take up more battery, and they don't behave in a consistent way with the rest of the OS.

* I’m practically never so productive that I’m counting seconds for an app to open.

* VS Code is just as quick to use as Xcode, actually more responsive in many actions, demonstrating effectively that it’s the algorithm which must change for a serious speed up

* MBP batteries are laughable in the first place and they’re basically portable desktops that need to stay plugged in all the time

* The rest of the OS hasn’t behaved consistently with itself the whole time I’ve been using it, just like every other OS I’ve used for the past 25 years; consistency was a pipe dream

Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

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Post by addicted44 »

throwqwerty wrote: post #20
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like being on Hacker News sometimes warps the context of a personal blog post. If I put out a tweet that said "Huh, my app got about the same number of downloads on iOS and Mac, I think the market's about the same for certain types of apps" would you say my tweet is full of vagaries and incorrect assumptions?

the difference between your hypothetical tweet and this article is that humble qualifier "I think". what I've seen hn (and startup culture in general) distort is people's confidence in their own opinions. this is probably because it is repeated ad nauseum that you cannot start a successful startup without being an iconoclastic innovator. what isn't repeated ad nauseum is that you should save that kind of arrogance fo…

One of the first things I learnt in English 101 is that "I think" is redundant.

Your writing something automatically implies that it's what you think.

Unless you explicitly say something is a "fact" or quote a 3rd party.

Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

#46

Post by leejoramo »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #41
jolux wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new NNW is a total rewrite which started off as a different app.

Kinda. The original NetNewsWire was made by the same guy behind the current NetNewsWire. It's just that there was a period in between where NetNewsWire was owned and developed by someone else.

Same guy. 100% different project. He required the NetNewsWire name well after the start of this new open source RSS reader.

Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

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Post by kranner »

addicted44 wrote: post #45
throwqwerty wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the difference between your hypothetical tweet and this article is that humble qualifier "I think". what I've seen hn (and startup culture in general) distort is people's confidence in their own opinions. this is probably because it is repeated ad nauseum that you cannot start a successful startup without being an iconoclastic innovator. what isn't repeated ad nauseum is that you should save that kind of arrogance fo…

One of the first things I learnt in English 101 is that "I think" is redundant. Your writing something automatically implies that it's what you think. Unless you explicitly say something is a "fact" or quote a 3rd party.

It is not always redundant. It can be used to politely signal that you may be wrong about something you are asserting, even when you are sure about it and everyone knows you are sure. This is especially helpful when you have visible authority over the other parties in the discussion.

Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

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Post by mattl »

obarthelemy wrote: post #19

Actually, when Apple launched the Airbuds, I computed that it was very likely the AirBuds would generate more profit for Apple than Mac hardware. IIRC assuming 70% profit on the Airbuds and 30% on the Mac (because lots more R&D, lots more support, lots more warranty, lots more dev...), a 30% attach rate made the Airbuds more profitable.

# Air Bud

* Budget $3 million

* Box office $27,771,629

# Air Bud: Golden Receiver

* Budget $11 million

* Box office $10,224,116

Air Bud: World Pup, Air Bud: Seventh Inning Fetch and Air Bud: Spikes Back are direct-to-DVD movies, so we don't know about their box office performance, sadly.

Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

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Post by frosted-flakes »

addicted44 wrote: post #45
throwqwerty wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the difference between your hypothetical tweet and this article is that humble qualifier "I think". what I've seen hn (and startup culture in general) distort is people's confidence in their own opinions. this is probably because it is repeated ad nauseum that you cannot start a successful startup without being an iconoclastic innovator. what isn't repeated ad nauseum is that you should save that kind of arrogance fo…

One of the first things I learnt in English 101 is that "I think" is redundant. Your writing something automatically implies that it's what you think. Unless you explicitly say something is a "fact" or quote a 3rd party.

"I think" is not always redundant. It serves the same purpose as "in my opinion" or "I'm pretty sure", which is to temper the confidence of the statement or indicate an unverified intuition.

Example:

"Hey, where's the emergency toilet paper supply?" "I think it's in the cupboard under the stairs."

I think (but am not sure!) that this use of "I think" is intuitively obvious to most native English speakers, especially when paired with voice tone.

Obviously, if you're sure that a statement is true, then adding "I think" only weakens your point. Unskilled writers might not know to avoid it in (say) an essay, which may be why you heard that advice in school.

Re: The iOS and Mac markets are almost the same size?

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Post by throwqwerty »

addicted44 wrote: post #45
throwqwerty wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the difference between your hypothetical tweet and this article is that humble qualifier "I think". what I've seen hn (and startup culture in general) distort is people's confidence in their own opinions. this is probably because it is repeated ad nauseum that you cannot start a successful startup without being an iconoclastic innovator. what isn't repeated ad nauseum is that you should save that kind of arrogance fo…

One of the first things I learnt in English 101 is that "I think" is redundant. Your writing something automatically implies that it's what you think. Unless you explicitly say something is a "fact" or quote a 3rd party.

i meant exactly what i said: it's a humble qualifier . "I think" functions as an admission of fallibility. it transforms a certain claim into a proposition subject to change. its purpose is rhetorical rather than formal.
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