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I ordered a number of masks yesterday from Aliexpress. It works. Shipping is slower than usual, but not crazy.
Can you really say it works until you've actually received them? What masks did you order by the way?
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A lot of masks sold retail can’t be used in hospital settings in America. Many hospitals have strict rules about procurement and origination of things like N95 masks. Meanwhile, I can order comparable masks from China and have them in less than a week in quantity. It’s very much cultural as well as government response (why we are sucking so much at controlling this).
> I can order comparable masks from China Why would you buy safety critical equipment from China? There are good reasons those hospitals have such strict requirements. http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-03/12/c_138870714.htm > A joint law enforcement operation by government agencies including the State Administration for Market Regulation (SAMR) was launched in early February, with over 80 million defective face m…
Again another article that doesn't even mention the use of masks and hand sanitizer. The cost of the epidemic now goes into the trillions, self-made cotton masks are cheap compared to the economic damage. They can be disinfected in boiling water and if everybody uses them they will help to stop the spreading of the virus. In all the countries mentioned in the article people wear masks when in public, often just again…
Cloth masks may be counter productive https://dx.doi.org/10.1136%2Fbmjopen-2014-006577
> medical masks, cloth masks or a control group (usual practice, which included mask wearing).
Yes, the cloth mask group had more infections than the medical mask group and the control group. But the control group included wearing masks as usual. It does NOT say cloth masks are less effective than nothing. "No mask" was not studied. Cloth masks might be less effective than wearing no mask (I personally doubt that), but this study didn't say anything about that hypothesis.
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To add to that. mainland China banned citizens from traveling to Taiwan as individual tourists 2019 July because of other reasons. So yes Taiwan did not have huge flows of mainland Chinese. https://time.com/5639832/china-bans-travel-taiwan-tourists/
But they did, for business. There are also millions of Taiwanese that either live or work in the PRC. Taiwan was one of the major international destinations for flights from Hubei and not coincidentally one of the first countries with cases outside China.
> There are also millions of Taiwanese that either live or work in the PRC
Taiwan has a population around 23.78 million. So you are saying at least 1 in 20 live or work in the PRC...
Last few days though, more numbers are being reported of new infections in both China and South Korea. Yesterday more than 100+ in SK I think.
Another effing article that completely ignores Taiwan... I’m no taiwanophile, but why is it that a first-world democracy with a successful strategy against Covid is being completely ignored by media? https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762689 Taiwan has huge flows of Chinese people, yet no outbreak. Maybe it’s a good thing they are not recognised by the WHO?
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> Europe and USA don't understand how exponent works. Oh, they know how exponents work. They only care when it affects their bottom line. It's clear that the working class are just lambs for slaughter when the corporate overlords look at them.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. By delaying the response they made their bottom line sink exponentially deeper.
South Korea is basically an island, conducted serendipitous did large scale pandemic drill in December, has a compliant population with mandatory civil service and memory of recent authoritarian government, can mobilize techno-authoritarian surveillance. My question is, what is happening in Japan? Except wide spread mask usage, they have systemic undertesting at 1/6 capacity, no social distance measures, nothing shut…
And they didn't even try to shutdown churches, bars and clubs, while churches consistently have been the largest sources of mass infection. And your may also want to know that literally every single media has been criticizing every single action taken by the government. What an authoritarian government.
> Which loops back to S.Korea, why so eager to trust their numbers. Their politics is fairly corrupt.
They earned their trust by reporting 7000 cases, taking the risks of huge political disadvantages. All the other first world countries were reluctant on doing that due to the exact opposite motivations. And unless you have some ideas on the modern political landscapes in S.K., I would recommend not to inconsiderately speak up a such fairly strong opinion.
Another effing article that completely ignores Taiwan... I’m no taiwanophile, but why is it that a first-world democracy with a successful strategy against Covid is being completely ignored by media? https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762689 Taiwan has huge flows of Chinese people, yet no outbreak. Maybe it’s a good thing they are not recognised by the WHO?