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Social distancing slowing not only Covid-19, but other diseases too

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Re: Social distancing slowing not only Covid-19, but other diseases too

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That’s fine. Get a preliminary test, rule it out if you can, and if it comes back positive then take other tests or self-isolate, or both. Beats the heck out of everyone hiding under their bed for months.

You can't "rule it out", because when the test says "you don't have it" you may well have it. Some of the tests have a 20% to 40% false negative rate.

That’s unfortunate.

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Is my opinion on the exact details of the implementation of a non-existant car ban really that relevant?

I just wanted to see if you have thought through the implications of what you advocated.

You could've just asked :)

And yes I have; I've been advocating something similar for years.

Re: Social distancing slowing not only Covid-19, but other diseases too

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the title should really be "other INFECTIOUS diseases"

Reduced air pollution reduces non-infectious disease too.

Can you please explain me how is air pollution affected by social distancing?

And also article is not discussing air pollution at all, they talk about less fevers detected on smart thermometers. Those are caused by seasonal flu and other viral seasonal colds, obviously because people now take more care, so those other infectious diseases are blocked from spreading too.

Re: Social distancing slowing not only Covid-19, but other diseases too

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As of right now, covid-19 is killing about 2,200 people/day, compared to about 3,300 people/day for car accidents. So it hasn't caught up yet, but it's still on an exponential climb and will probably get there in another week or so, and then keep right on climbing. This whole "the flu/cars/heart disease is way worse" shtick people are leaning on has got to stop. It's true until exponential growth suddenly means it's…

Wouldn’t the number of people the virus will kill will reach a maximum and then decline rapidly as the remaining population will be immune to it?

Yes, but this statement is trivially true for any exponential spread constrained by a maximum population - even if the virus kills everybody.

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I was hoping for this, lets do social distancing a tradition for every winter

Do you really think we're going to come out of this period causing people to lose their jobs, lose their savings, lose their loved ones, not see their friends, stop going to sports and social events… and everyone's going to be like "Hey, that was fun, let's do it again next year"?

Do you personally know many people who has lost a loved one or their job to COVID? 2nd, could be painted as a lets do this preemptively every year or in memory... Don't need to close everything, could be as simple as work from home if you can don't do gatherings/go out unnecessarily for a week or two.

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Reduced air pollution reduces non-infectious disease too.

Can you please explain me how is air pollution affected by social distancing? And also article is not discussing air pollution at all, they talk about less fevers detected on smart thermometers. Those are caused by seasonal flu and other viral seasonal colds, obviously because people now take more care, so those other infectious diseases are blocked from spreading too.

Physical distancing prohibits all non-essential travel, much of which would have happened by motor vehicle.

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I have a feeling that a lot of people will have happy memories from this time, except for those that have lost loved ones or facing the hell of trying to save those that are infected. I was talking about this today on a midday walk with my wife (which would have never been possible in other circumstances). With enough fond memories and fears of a repeat, an annual social distancing tradition may actually have the pos…

Most people won't. Many average people are going to lose their jobs or business and go broke, or be cooped up in a tiny apartment for weeks and months. Some of us are lucky enough to be able to weather this without severe downsides. But we're in the minority.

I am on vacation and am having a great time.

I have been cooped up in my apartment for three weeks and only left it four times to go to the grocery store. Finally I have some time to spend on my oss projects

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I've theorized this about sexually transmitted diseases, too. It's even less realistic to imagine compliance, but suppose everyone only had sex with people who were born the same year as them. Any given disease would lose the ability to spread into younger people, and simply fall off the end of the age conveyor-belt.

It’s pretty easy to stop STDs just by only ever having sex with 1 person, or more liberally, 1 person at a time and both getting tested before then. Having to go with the “same year” rule is probably harder than that.

Small reminder that STIs are not just transmitted by 'sex', but also through other intimate acts like kissing.

The only suggestion that seems remotely plausible is 'all participants getting tested first'. There are still issues with getting tested, as there are false negatives and it can be hard to get tested for all diseases, but this would dramatically reduce incident of STIs.

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You will learn to love him eventually >:)

[Off topic] I recently picked up 1984 again and finally managed to complete it this time. I read the last line with a mixture of relief and a tinge of disappointment. Until the very end, I was hoping for a Hollywood-style turnaround in the political situation.

I probably would never have finished that book if it wasn't required for a high school English class, it wasn't a pleasant read. But I'm glad I read it, I feel like I've been inoculated against some of the worse political ideas being traded nowadays. It's kind of amazing to me to think that they must have been present in Orwell's day already.

Re: Social distancing slowing not only Covid-19, but other diseases too

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Here is a reason to believe that the data is biased. If you look at any county in California - you’d see a large drop on the exact date that the statewide shelter in place was ordered. This is obviously before any of the effects of isolation would manifest themselves. The reason is likely due to larger amount of testing done due to the panic, that is not properly accounted for in their algorithm.

It's certainly biased. The question is if it is still useful after accounting for bias.

People that use these thermometers probably skew towards being more worried about the virus. They probably isolated and were more careful days before the shelter in place was ordered.

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