snap. what about express? i don't see it on the list?
Top VPNs recording users, potentially leaking data when visiting their websites
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Re: Top VPNs recording users, potentially leaking data when visiting their websites
#22Maybe it's just me, but it feels like this is trying to scare people into thinking that the VPNs mentioned are doing this tracking on the sites you visit while using their VPN, when it's really only about the VPN's own website (which people usually visit only when they sign up). It doesn't explicitly say the tracking is happening while using the VPNs in question, but I would bet a large portion of readers assume that…
Yeah, I think the title should be changed. It's very misleading.
The VPN industry is all about manufacturing rumors about your opponents.
Re: Top VPNs recording users, potentially leaking data when visiting their websites
#23Maybe it's just me, but it feels like this is trying to scare people into thinking that the VPNs mentioned are doing this tracking on the sites you visit while using their VPN, when it's really only about the VPN's own website (which people usually visit only when they sign up). It doesn't explicitly say the tracking is happening while using the VPNs in question, but I would bet a large portion of readers assume that…
I don't know what you can see, but the full title shows that it's about websites
and their info section shows that they only analyzed websites. "In order to analyze these websites..."
i get what you mean, but i think that's a bit more about reading comprehension than what they've been doing.
Re: Top VPNs recording users, potentially leaking data when visiting their websites
#24their entire business model depends on privacy and security. it's like playing with matches
Re: Top VPNs recording users, potentially leaking data when visiting their websites
#25Maybe it's just me, but it feels like this is trying to scare people into thinking that the VPNs mentioned are doing this tracking on the sites you visit while using their VPN, when it's really only about the VPN's own website (which people usually visit only when they sign up). It doesn't explicitly say the tracking is happening while using the VPNs in question, but I would bet a large portion of readers assume that…
I don't know what you can see, but the full title shows that it's about websites and their info section shows that they only analyzed websites. "In order to analyze these websites..." i get what you mean, but i think that's a bit more about reading comprehension than what they've been doing.
Yes, you and I both recognize that they're only talking about the VPN's own websites, but I'd bet good money that a majority of less-technical readers (not HN readers) won't understand that distinction. It feels like the author knows that, and deliberately failed to point out the fact that the tracking in question doesn't affect a person's privacy while using the VPNs.
Case in point:
> Remember, these trackers are made so that they can track your online behavior, and follow you wherever you go on the internet. Having even 1 of them on your website really defeats any argument for ultimate privacy and anonymity.
Tell me that isn't trying to scare the reader into thinking the trackers can follow your activity while using the VPNs.
Re: Top VPNs recording users, potentially leaking data when visiting their websites
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know what you can see, but the full title shows that it's about websites and their info section shows that they only analyzed websites. "In order to analyze these websites..." i get what you mean, but i think that's a bit more about reading comprehension than what they've been doing.
Yes, you and I both recognize that they're only talking about the VPN's own websites, but I'd bet good money that a majority of less-technical readers (not HN readers) won't understand that distinction. It feels like the author knows that, and deliberately failed to point out the fact that the tracking in question doesn't affect a person's privacy while using the VPNs. Case in point: > Remember, these trackers are ma…
I see what you mean. A little bit of "reasonable ignorance" but full understanding on the author's side that people don't read full sentences (or long titles).
nonetheless, the research is still valuable. not very surprising that those antivirus companies with vpns have such huge numbers of trackers
Re: Top VPNs recording users, potentially leaking data when visiting their websites
#27Why the outrage? It's sometimes worth replaying a session to gauge your prospect's behavior and figuring out how to convert them. Also, for people who use a VPN, I would imagine the majority of them would be using an AD-Blocker / Tracking blocker in their browser to stop any attempt by the VPN company to spy on them.
Re: Top VPNs recording users, potentially leaking data when visiting their websites
#28Why the outrage? It's sometimes worth replaying a session to gauge your prospect's behavior and figuring out how to convert them. Also, for people who use a VPN, I would imagine the majority of them would be using an AD-Blocker / Tracking blocker in their browser to stop any attempt by the VPN company to spy on them.
That's likely true. I don't know if I'd call it "outrage" as just...useful information.
Like a live test of a theoretical concept. Privacy over marketing. At some point, they have to improve their offerings and user experience. But I wonder if they went for the quickest option out of the box (there are lots of shady third parties there) or if they considered doing something a bit safer based on their needs.
I know lots of marketers that want A LOT of tools and get A LOT of data -- and not really sure what to do with that data
Re: Top VPNs recording users, potentially leaking data when visiting their websites
#29> "2. AirVPN – 0"
Shoutout to AirVPN, run by actual hacktivists: https://airvpn.org/mission/