Imagine how much Theranos would have been worth right now.
I think cost firstly and then speed of result would be useful right now never mind the throughput.
Bosch develops rapid test for Covid-19
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#142Sounds really impressive, but writing "1,000 tests per day with just 100 devivces" is really marketing BS I think. They should've just written "10 tests per day per device".
You're talking about it, so they achieved their goal.
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#143This is not rapid, only 10 tests/day, whilst the current overly slow sequencers can do 200/day. The accuracy of 5% is also worse than other faster sequencers of 3%. And compare that to modern ThermalFischer parallel PCR sequencers, which operate in realtime, 25 tests in parallel, for 2.500€. That's a factor of 1000. With 10 modern sequencers per city you could test 10.000 per day, eg with drive-in. https://www.thermo…
I think you mix up latency and throughput.
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#144Sounds really impressive, but writing "1,000 tests per day with just 100 devivces" is really marketing BS I think. They should've just written "10 tests per day per device".
True. This is seems to be on one of the extreme ends of latency versus throughput optimization and its niche in the big picture of Covid-19 will be very small. But it appears to be a new test cartridge for an already deployed machine, so it makes sense to have it anyways. I don't know who the typical customer of an on-site lab in a box like that is, but I guess that as last part of the market will be defined by remot…
I don't know how many of these machines are already deployed, but if there are a lot of them already at many doctors, it could be a huge thing, as suddenly, the tests can be run on existing infrastructure.
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#145> Up to 10,000,000 tests per day ... > ... on just 1,000,000 devices Incredible marketing.
Given the size of hospitals around the world, I'd assume its not unlikely that they'll buy 100+ of these devices. I agee that this is somewhat confusing, but it doesn't seem too unrealistic. Also, it seems like the actual test is the cartridge which is inserted into an existing device. So the device is probably already in use in some places and can get this extra test capability by just inserting the cartridge.
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#146As an aside question: after each use is that entire cartridge assembly waste?
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#147> Faster certainty, slower spread
At this point, isn't the virus considered to be "everywhere" and testing pointless?
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#148> Faster certainty, slower spread At this point, isn't the virus considered to be "everywhere" and testing pointless?
I honestly don't even understand what I'm reading anymore. Either on HN and Reddit, or sites like the BBC, NY Times, and CNN.
Half the things I read still reflect fantasies of Asian-style containment in the West.
The other half acknowledge that this is too late. That we're heading up an exponential curve now, and will be on the other side in 3-6 months (depending on measures taken).
I'm no expert. But knowing what I know about my nation's government, and the likelihood of its people fully cooperating with any measures, I suspect that the second half is more realistic.
Meaning that testing and contact tracing is really only going to become relevant later this year. To snuff out any minor flare-ups that occur after most of society has gotten over the curve and built up herd immunity.
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#149Cepheid has started shipping tests that produce results in under 45 minutes.
https://www.labpulse.com/index.aspx?sec=sup&sub=mic&pag=dis&...
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. Also the Cepheid one is faster (45 minute for point-of-care results) and has FDA approval ... not sure other advantages/disadvantages of each system though (instrument and reagent cost, # deployed units, etc). https://www.cepheid.com/coronavirus That said, it’s great to see all the companies that are putting real effort into this. This is their time to serve. My own employer has assembled a task force for rep…
I don't work in an area where my skills can contribute but I'm in the process of finding out if I can sort insurance out to go out and do medication deliveries on motorcycle for local pharmacises, with the lockdown and the number of vulnerable people (including my mother and best friend) who can't leave their houses there is >1.5m people who can't leave at all for health reasons most of whom require prescription medi…
If you’re healthy you could also reach out to a local shelter, neighborhood not for profit, charity or church. They may have needs.
Also, don’t forget to socialize in whatever way you can. Skype your relatives, call your friends, send a letter to your neighbor. Go on a walk and ask people (from 6 Ft away or more of course) how they’re doing. Take time to do the human things. Anyway to make someone else feel slightly normal is this time is a big help!