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Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #61

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Replacing pictures wont help (they already have them), GDPR request for deletion might work better but on the other side you also give them your confirmed identity. With companies as shady as this one, they might just set a flag in their database and add your documents data to them. As you have figured out on your own, public should listen to some people warning about this for more than decade instead of making fun f…

GDPR request for deletion might work better Dumb question - how can anyone be sure that companies actually delete the data? What about the backups, what happens to the data there? How do these govt enforcers verify this? Also, what about Clearview's employees abusing the data? what stops them from snooping on someone they are interested in?

It's pretty easy to check whether or not they are still selling a profile of John Q Deleted to customers, since anyone be a customer.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

#162
post #29

It's interesting how collecting or distributing files with music is a grave crime and corporations can take down anything they don't like with a half-assed DMCA request, with no repercussions for "mistakes", but a person's face image doesn't belong to that person and the same corporations can safely collect and distribute these images for profit.

It's because you haven't shown a dollar value of damages.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #9

I used to think some of my peers were being overly cautious by purposely trying to obfuscate their online profile. Back in the day, I couldn’t care less about putting in effort to try to protect my online privacy. I have slowly but surely come to see the light. Now it’s at the forefront of my mind at all times. Learning about this company (and I imagine other unknown entities are doing the same) has encouraged me to…

Your peers were being rational, but it's a drop in the bucket. I've come to the conclusion that privacy can only be protected with legislation. There is too much surface area to protect for the average person to police their own data trail online. Even experts have a tough time doing it. You'd have to abstain from virtually everything, and even then you can't keep other people from posting you, tagging you, etc.

This isn't a technical issue. It's a political issue.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #64
post #9

I used to think some of my peers were being overly cautious by purposely trying to obfuscate their online profile. Back in the day, I couldn’t care less about putting in effort to try to protect my online privacy. I have slowly but surely come to see the light. Now it’s at the forefront of my mind at all times. Learning about this company (and I imagine other unknown entities are doing the same) has encouraged me to…

Just for the record, the journalist who broke the story on Clearview noted that Clearview AI has specifically demonstrated it isn't fooled by thispersondoesnotexist.com: https://twitter.com/kashhill/status/1218542846694871040?s=20 You won't be giving them any info on you, but you won't be confounding them either.

But, that sounds like it is fooled, in this context.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

#165
post #150

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Investigations are on the way. Heise online writes (translated): "Hamburg data protection officer takes action against Clearview. Following a complaint, data protection officer Johannes Caspar is investigating the US company Clearview AI, which specialises in automated facial recognition. [...]" Source (in german): https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Gesichtserkennung-Ha...

And it only took them 2 years to act on it. Wow.

GDPR for the first time allows non profits to bring up cases. So its up to eveyone to support them. "They" have a lot of worrying cases to cope with.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #132

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Google and Facebook are still around, so the GDPR is an absolute joke of a law that nobody cares to enforce.

You might be surprised: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

Search for how many of those enforcements came from Ireland. Now look up what country's GDPR authority Google and Facebook and most American companies are choosing to be subject to. It's not a coincidence that the place that hosts all US company's remote headquarters isn't participating in GDPR enforcement.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #9

I used to think some of my peers were being overly cautious by purposely trying to obfuscate their online profile. Back in the day, I couldn’t care less about putting in effort to try to protect my online privacy. I have slowly but surely come to see the light. Now it’s at the forefront of my mind at all times. Learning about this company (and I imagine other unknown entities are doing the same) has encouraged me to…

I grew up with the "don't use your real name on the internet" in the back of my head, this was before kids got internet safety classes. 5-10 years later, Facebook came up with their real name policy and started asking people to snitch on their friends if they used a fake name. Google, and mainly Youtube, came with a real name policy as well, on the one hand for Google+, but on the other to try and fight comment abuse…

> People have valid reasons to use a fake name on the internet; […]

Here is a more exhaustive list: Who is harmed by a "Real Names" policy?

https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Who_is_harmed_by_a_%22Re...

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #165
post #150

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And it only took them 2 years to act on it. Wow.

GDPR for the first time allows non profits to bring up cases. So its up to eveyone to support them. "They" have a lot of worrying cases to cope with.

Do they take donations? I'd be happy to chip in a $1000 to help destroy these scumbags.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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I'm not entirely sure what's so shocking about public data, shared willingly by the person to the public, being used to identify the person. If the data weren't/hadn't been shared willingly, I'd definitely see that as a problem. Same thing as if the data were to have been gleaned from non-public sources e.g the person's private belongings or secured digital realms like private forums, password encrypted backups, priv…

It's about trust and permission. If I give e.g. a local news website permission to use my portrait, I do NOT implicitly give permission to Clearview, Google, Facebook, etc to use it for their own purposes. I mean it's implicitly known that anything you post on the internet is public property, but legally that is not the case. Portrait law (at least in my country). You can't just take someone's portrait and use it for…

Actually you do, because scraping is considered legal in the US and your information is on a public site which makes scraping the information legal.
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