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I got my file from Clearview AI

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Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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So the difference between this an google‘s reverse image search is that google‘s matching algorithm is worse (probably because it doesn‘t include facial recognition)?

Well, public images are public and I don‘t think banning such a service would prevent governments from implementing something like this .. the technological challenges are getting less and less.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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Why is there no arrest warrant against the managers and owners of Clearview here on the EU? They are using PII of hundreds of millions of Europeans without written consent. That alone should mean billions of euros in fines.

https://edpb.europa.eu/about-edpb/board/members_en

Europeans can find their national privacy boards here, and file complaints about Clearview through them.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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I used to think some of my peers were being overly cautious by purposely trying to obfuscate their online profile. Back in the day, I couldn’t care less about putting in effort to try to protect my online privacy. I have slowly but surely come to see the light. Now it’s at the forefront of my mind at all times. Learning about this company (and I imagine other unknown entities are doing the same) has encouraged me to…

Replacing pictures wont help (they already have them), GDPR request for deletion might work better but on the other side you also give them your confirmed identity. With companies as shady as this one, they might just set a flag in their database and add your documents data to them. As you have figured out on your own, public should listen to some people warning about this for more than decade instead of making fun f…

> With companies as shady as this one, they might just set a flag in their database and add your documents data to them.

This is exactly my fear. If they were more legitimate, I wouldn't be worried about sending an ID card. Thinking if it makes sense to fake an ID with my real picture on it so they can give me the data and 'delete' it but with a fake name to make sure I'm at least not feeding the troll.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #112

Why is there no arrest warrant against the managers and owners of Clearview here on the EU? They are using PII of hundreds of millions of Europeans without written consent. That alone should mean billions of euros in fines.

Because the general public doesn't care enough to raise a stink? Back when Snowden story broke, I tried explaining its significance to a handful of my friends - all I got was a yawn. These are not dumb people, they are smart professionals (non-IT). Even then, I failed to get the point across to them.

It would require some serious education before the public wakes up to the dangers of private companies running amok with their data. Sad thing is, it is already too late. It is going to be very difficult to put a lid on this. This is a company that we (now) know about - how many are there silently working in the shadows that we don't know about?

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #112

Why is there no arrest warrant against the managers and owners of Clearview here on the EU? They are using PII of hundreds of millions of Europeans without written consent. That alone should mean billions of euros in fines.

Investigations are on the way. Heise online writes (translated): "Hamburg data protection officer takes action against Clearview. Following a complaint, data protection officer Johannes Caspar is investigating the US company Clearview AI, which specialises in automated facial recognition. [...]"

Source (in german): https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Gesichtserkennung-Ha...

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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I wonder what would happen if I were to issue them a $5000/mo/piece retroactive license invoice for any/all use of my name/likeness/etc for their profit. I wonder what would happen if everyone did.

A class-action suit that would probably last for a couple years and end in a settlement where the claimants - assuming they fill(ed) in forms x, y and z, would be entitled to at best a few hundred dollars. See also the Equifax settlement. I'd say Equifax is the best / most recent example about something like this.

> Equifax is the best / most recent example about something like this

Equifax’s credit-data provenance is enshrined in law. Their mistake was in improperly distributing legally-owned data.

Clearview does not have legal claim to individuals’ or Facebook‘s copyrights. Its mistake is more fundamental than Equifax’s.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as they process openly available data I do not see a difference from searching your name on the internet in terms of the gdpr. They also responded to the request (maybe not fast enough) . Deletion would be a difficult thing maybe to be fully compliant to eu regulations .if its ethical is another story...

Good thing I'm not relying on you for my legal questions. GDPR gives the user control over their own data, and each new use of the data requires specific consent be asked. So using PII on any person, no matter where you found it, requires explicit consent.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22683663

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #112

Why is there no arrest warrant against the managers and owners of Clearview here on the EU? They are using PII of hundreds of millions of Europeans without written consent. That alone should mean billions of euros in fines.

Investigations are on the way. Heise online writes (translated): "Hamburg data protection officer takes action against Clearview. Following a complaint, data protection officer Johannes Caspar is investigating the US company Clearview AI, which specialises in automated facial recognition. [...]" Source (in german): https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Gesichtserkennung-Ha...

And it only took them 2 years to act on it. Wow.
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