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> Why don’t we have a log for the most important system ever? Aw, c'mon! It's called memory and our systems spend a significant amount of ATP on it.
> Why don’t we have a log for the most important system ever? Aw, c'mon! It's called memory and our systems spend a significant amount of ATP on it.
If only it worked like a log, though. Unless you're a John von Neumann level outlier, you can't query your memory for "what's everything I did between 9 and 10 AM on October 12, 2017?"
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If only it worked like a log, though. Unless you're a John von Neumann level outlier, you can't query your memory for "what's everything I did between 9 and 10 AM on October 12, 2017?"
What have you tried?
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What have you tried?
Nothing. Just saying memory alone isn't sufficient for most people. Most would need to rely on something else in addition, like remembering to manually make note of things in the moment.
> Just saying memory alone isn't sufficient for most people.
I'm merely pointing out that the reason we (as evolving beings) have memory in the first place is due to the adaptive advantage of "logging" experience. ;-)
FWIW, memory has been sufficient for most people: we're here, therefore every one of our ancestors did at least well enough to make a baby (who grew up to do at least well enough to make another baby, and so on right up until you, today.)
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Nothing. Just saying memory alone isn't sufficient for most people. Most would need to rely on something else in addition, like remembering to manually make note of things in the moment.
First, let me say that I'm not against e.g. "quantified self" et. al. at all. It's fine. (IMO) And writing has, in general, been a benefit, eh? > Just saying memory alone isn't sufficient for most people. I'm merely pointing out that the reason we (as evolving beings) have memory in the first place is due to the adaptive advantage of "logging" experience. ;-) FWIW, memory has been sufficient for most people: we're he…
Natural selection is good for ensuring you make it to a bit past reproductive age, but for everything else it's really hit-or-miss. As one would expect. We're just the first known lifeforms that seem to have an imperative beyond replication.
> Every important system has logs since they’re necessary to improve the system over time. That brings me to the most important system I know. One that we never designed - but use all the time. The human body. I would argue that there are two more important systems: - Planet Earth - Human societies (and overall humanity itself) Writing a similar essay but with these as the the subject would be a difficult but fun and…
Well we certainly log a lot of information about both of those. The Seshat Global History Databank people are into this sort of thing (real-world psychohistory): http://seshatdatabank.info/ ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistory_%28fictional%29 )
Now this looks very interesting, I am going to give it a read.
If you have anything else along these lines up your sleeve, I would love to see it!
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Well we certainly log a lot of information about both of those. The Seshat Global History Databank people are into this sort of thing (real-world psychohistory): http://seshatdatabank.info/ ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistory_%28fictional%29 )
Hey carapace! Now this looks very interesting, I am going to give it a read. If you have anything else along these lines up your sleeve, I would love to see it!
These folks seem to me to be the least, uh, starry-eyed of the would-be Foundationites, but my knowledge is not comprehensive, eh? I only know about these folks because I'm interested in their underlying graph-based Prolog-implemented database, TerminusDB. ( https://terminusdb.com/ )
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FWIW, I view the Internet et. al. as a kind of GAI with humans for neurons. From that POV Seshat is one of many ways in which we/it are becoming self-aware.