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The Human Log

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Re: The Human Log

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Post by bnj »

I've been thinking about this on and off and at the moment I'm feeling like automatically collecting log information is a good approach, at least for me, so that I can set and forget until I'm ready to explore. I really like the way that smart watches are making this easier.

I use an iPhone and I've been wondering whether there are any good tools that can automatically collect some information about my activities on the device, sort of like the screen time utility-- off the top of my head: * send an email * time notetaking * time and address of web pages visited...

Keeping a uniform activity log of what I'm doing on my devices would be something that I could use to go back over and figure out what I've actually accomplished, review it against my goals...

Re: The Human Log

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Post by afc »

Thanks for sharing! This resonates strongly with me.

One thing I did (and fairly recently too: https://github.com/alefore/edge/commit/6e93c2bb327f57d13d067... says just 10 days ago) is adjust my text editor (http://github.com/alefore/edge) to keep a log per file of all the operations I do on that file. I expect to use this to generate reports along the lines of "what files did I work on last Thursday", "how much active (for some definition) time have I spent modifying this file" or "on how many different days have I opened this file". Perhaps I'll also use this as a cluster to feed to the Bayesian filter ("I tend to edit file X whenever I edit file Y") that I use to optimize my autocomplete predictions/search history.

(I also plan to use this to see if I can find ways to optimize the types of transformations that I bind to my keys if I notice special patterns (e.g., when I do transformation X, I very frequently do transformation Y immediately after), but I haven't yet thought very much about how I'll do this.)

I'm somewhat curious as to how much value I'll actually derive from this. I tried the Quantified Self in the past but ... I think it suffers from the fact that reality tends to be too complicated to be predicted by ~simple models.

Re: The Human Log

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Post by 7lint »

aaukt wrote: post #5
frankish wrote: post #2

I've been thinking a bit about solving this same problem, but I feel there is too much overhead to log things manually. What we need is better interfacing with computers so that we can just think "log my weight is 190 lbs" or "log I ate 1 small chicken breast and a cup of brocolli". Voice control and my phone are not sufficient for my needs so far. I also want to be able to have full control over my own logs in plain…

I used https://open.nomie.app when i had to take a medicine for several months and wanted to know how my body reacted and how the symptoms changed.

I used tickmate to track symptoms. It's a one bit journal for android.

https://github.com/lordi/tickmate

Re: The Human Log

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

In my opinion this is the entire selling point/core value of Augmented Reality and is why it's been a pursuit of mine since 2006 or so.

And for clarity, it's the world facing camera that is the most critical part of AR, in my opinion, not what is displayed to the user. The display simply gives me most compelling reason to the user to adopt the technology. The reason for this is because a world facing camera system is a tractable tangible thing that we can build and actually deploy today. The current state of object detection with CV, and the other long tail analysis you can do with it, allows us to get really really good at making inferences of world and user state, based on detected objects (+ some telemetry).

So today, you can get really close to a high resolution log, from strapping a camera on your head and building an object detection pipeline. The challenge here though is of course what you all expect, privacy, monetization, influence, control etc... The world where everyone is logging everything about themselves, which means they would also be logging their interactions with others, is the no-privacy world that everyone is terrified of.

You can't create Laplace's Demon and also preserve the virtues of privacy.

Re: The Human Log

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

frankish wrote: post #2

I've been thinking a bit about solving this same problem, but I feel there is too much overhead to log things manually. What we need is better interfacing with computers so that we can just think "log my weight is 190 lbs" or "log I ate 1 small chicken breast and a cup of brocolli". Voice control and my phone are not sufficient for my needs so far. I also want to be able to have full control over my own logs in plain…

You can do all of that with computer vision today.

Re: The Human Log

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Post by rojobuffalo »

frankish wrote: post #2

I've been thinking a bit about solving this same problem, but I feel there is too much overhead to log things manually. What we need is better interfacing with computers so that we can just think "log my weight is 190 lbs" or "log I ate 1 small chicken breast and a cup of brocolli". Voice control and my phone are not sufficient for my needs so far. I also want to be able to have full control over my own logs in plain…

I built a natural language health and nutrition journal for Telegram and SMS, but once it was working I didn't want to use it. I'm not convinced that keeping a meticulous log solves a real problem. Loosely structured journaling is definitely good, but not because of the data it encodes; it's benefit is the self-awareness that arises from putting thoughts and observations down in writing.

I think software people over-estimate the usefulness of software for guiding personal decisions and behaviors. There are far better ways to gain insight and control over your impulses and habits, ex. meditation, conversations with a friend, a skilled coach, community involvement, reading books... The one exception might be medical. Biometric logging could improve medical insights, but that carries a big vulnerability to exploits on that data.

Re: The Human Log

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Post by carapace »

> Why don’t we have a log for the most important system ever?

Aw, c'mon! It's called memory and our systems spend a significant amount of ATP on it.

Re: The Human Log

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Post by carapace »

mistermann wrote: post #9

> Every important system has logs since they’re necessary to improve the system over time. That brings me to the most important system I know. One that we never designed - but use all the time. The human body. I would argue that there are two more important systems: - Planet Earth - Human societies (and overall humanity itself) Writing a similar essay but with these as the the subject would be a difficult but fun and…

Well we certainly log a lot of information about both of those.

The Seshat Global History Databank people are into this sort of thing (real-world psychohistory): http://seshatdatabank.info/

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychohistory_%28fictional%29 )

Re: The Human Log

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Post by meowface »

frankish wrote: post #2

I've been thinking a bit about solving this same problem, but I feel there is too much overhead to log things manually. What we need is better interfacing with computers so that we can just think "log my weight is 190 lbs" or "log I ate 1 small chicken breast and a cup of brocolli". Voice control and my phone are not sufficient for my needs so far. I also want to be able to have full control over my own logs in plain…

Safe, simple, cheap, non-invasive neural interfaces with a good software ecosystem might be the next big wave of human advancement, with the wide adoption of the internet as the previous one. It opens the door to so many possibilities and use cases.
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