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CPAPs i believe have been ruled out as they vent exhalations indiscriminately, spreading the virus throughout the space.
Not in the health field, but the rapid innovation on the front lines is breathtaking. There are groups of doctors, nurses, and pharmacists communicating on Twitter solving these problems in real time. It's really inspiring!
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Reinvent the ventilator and have one sitting in a hospital in 14 days with no teething issues on production, training, deployment, maintenance?
Exactly. Anyone who has worked in medical devices knows this is impossible. Saying that you will prepare one as part of a timely response is such nonsense that I don't know what part to start looking at.
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When you need more than the existing manufacturers can produce, and the alternative (Italy) is to let them die in a hallway, then you might be willing to try anything. If it was my life I’d prefer the Dyson over nothing.
So take the design from one existing company and ramp the manufacture. The alternative isn't sit down with a blank sheet of paper and some pencils and see what you can knock out in a couple of weeks and shove into people without going through the appropriate testing and certification procedures. The problem isn't a lack of ventilator designs.
I've mentioned it before, but there is already an American company that makes a simplified and hardened version of a ventilator that is aimed at meeting surge demand during a pandemic. http://www.alliedhpi.com/mcv.htm They have already gone through the regulatory approval process and the cheapest model was retailing at about $3,000 and not the $50,000 number Ive seen tossed about for models with all the modern bells…
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When you need more than the existing manufacturers can produce, and the alternative (Italy) is to let them die in a hallway, then you might be willing to try anything. If it was my life I’d prefer the Dyson over nothing.
So take the design from one existing company and ramp the manufacture. The alternative isn't sit down with a blank sheet of paper and some pencils and see what you can knock out in a couple of weeks and shove into people without going through the appropriate testing and certification procedures. The problem isn't a lack of ventilator designs.
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I have to say, one of the things that is driving me mad these days is the level of ignorance evidenced by both popular and media conversations about all of this stuff. I mean, are we watching too many science fiction movies? Have we lost any connection to what it actually takes to make things? With over thirty years in technology and manufacturing I would not touch the rapid development of a ventilator with a ten foo…
I'm right there with you, probably has to do with many of them having never seen a manufacturing facility. But they do know how to write "Those jobs are never coming back!"
Yeah, I've lost a lot of tolerance for this kind of stuff during the last few weeks. We are being treated to an amazing display of the Dunning-Kruger effect on a daily basis.
I mean, I just heard the media is on a war path blaming Trump for some guy in Arizona who "died after taking Chloroquine, the drug the President is pushing". Turns out nobody did their research and this guy decided to take a chemical used to clean fish tanks. Never mind that there was no doctor involved at all. Fish tank cleaner...and somehow our President is culpable?
We are witnessing ignorance being elevated to a virtue.
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When you need more than the existing manufacturers can produce, and the alternative (Italy) is to let them die in a hallway, then you might be willing to try anything. If it was my life I’d prefer the Dyson over nothing.
Well, you might have nothing anyway , if it takes twice as long for Dyson to produce anything by starting from scratch rather than using an existing design. I guess nobody should stop him trying to make some of these at a crash pace, because there's a nonzero chance they might work out, but it does seem unlikely.
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I'm right there with you, probably has to do with many of them having never seen a manufacturing facility. But they do know how to write "Those jobs are never coming back!"
I had someone call me to ask if we could use our 3D print farm, industrial (not hobby) CNC equipment and surface mount line to make "a low cost ventilator they designed over the weekend". I pretty much read the guy the riot act and told him to stop fucking around with shit he isn't even remotely equipped to understand and go find some other way to help. Yeah, I've lost a lot of tolerance for this kind of stuff during…
I usually have little patience for people who have no idea what the hell they're talking about, but I've been trying to give the benefit of the doubt since a lot of these people are probably extremely panicked and genuinely trying to help. Some people though... need an ass-kicking.
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When you need more than the existing manufacturers can produce, and the alternative (Italy) is to let them die in a hallway, then you might be willing to try anything. If it was my life I’d prefer the Dyson over nothing.
So take the design from one existing company and ramp the manufacture. The alternative isn't sit down with a blank sheet of paper and some pencils and see what you can knock out in a couple of weeks and shove into people without going through the appropriate testing and certification procedures. The problem isn't a lack of ventilator designs.