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Dyson has announced it will develop a new type of medical ventilator for NHS
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Re: Dyson has announced it will develop a new type of medical ventilator for NHS
#82Why would it be easier/faster for a company to make their own design than for existing manufacturers to scale up production? Wouldn't it make more sense to throw resources at scaling existing production than new designs which would, themselves, then need to have production scaled up anyway?
Re: Dyson has announced it will develop a new type of medical ventilator for NHS
#83I've mentioned it before, but there is already an American company that makes a simplified and hardened version of a ventilator that is aimed at meeting surge demand during a pandemic.
http://www.alliedhpi.com/mcv.htm
They have already gone through the regulatory approval process and the cheapest model was retailing at about $3,000 and not the $50,000 number Ive seen tossed about for models with all the modern bells and whistles.
When you need to ramp up production quickly, simpler is better.
Re: Dyson has announced it will develop a new type of medical ventilator for NHS
#84> Some industry insiders have suggested that Dyson's approach to create a new model will take too long. You don't say. You can't just turn a vacuum cleaner into a ventilator by setting it to Blow instead of Suck. Medical devices take a very long time to develop, certify, build, release and develop training for because they're medical devices . The rule of thumb for consumer-grade hardware is it takes a minimum of one…
I have to say, one of the things that is driving me mad these days is the level of ignorance evidenced by both popular and media conversations about all of this stuff. I mean, are we watching too many science fiction movies? Have we lost any connection to what it actually takes to make things? With over thirty years in technology and manufacturing I would not touch the rapid development of a ventilator with a ten foo…
I'm right there with you, probably has to do with many of them having never seen a manufacturing facility. But they do know how to write "Those jobs are never coming back!"
Re: Dyson has announced it will develop a new type of medical ventilator for NHS
#85Re: Dyson has announced it will develop a new type of medical ventilator for NHS
#86> Some industry insiders have suggested that Dyson's approach to create a new model will take too long. You don't say. You can't just turn a vacuum cleaner into a ventilator by setting it to Blow instead of Suck. Medical devices take a very long time to develop, certify, build, release and develop training for because they're medical devices . The rule of thumb for consumer-grade hardware is it takes a minimum of one…
> This feels like Elon's child-rescue submarine, and at least as far as COVID-19 it's likely to save exactly the same number of people. Speaking of Elon Musk, his initial plans from a few days ago to also produce some in-house has morphed into the saner goal of acquiring 1000+ units from China, which apparently have already arrived in LA: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-24/californi...
Although buying existing ones is zero-sum: assuming the worldwide demand exceeds supply and, as such, those ventilators would have been sold anyway, his buying of those ventilators just swapped the shortage problem to a different group of patients.
Re: Dyson has announced it will develop a new type of medical ventilator for NHS
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This feels like Elon's child-rescue submarine, and at least as far as COVID-19 it's likely to save exactly the same number of people. Speaking of Elon Musk, his initial plans from a few days ago to also produce some in-house has morphed into the saner goal of acquiring 1000+ units from China, which apparently have already arrived in LA: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-24/californi...
Elon probably just went on Alibaba and bought some with his credit card.
It was probably a little more involved than that, but not by much. The real story is that asinine regulations and bureaucracy aren't letting hospital administrators do the same!
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it's that desperate force companies to make them. Don't pin your hopes and dreams on a fantasy that you can build a large-scale medical device in two weeks .
How can you expect that if they're at max capacity? I guess the government could throw major bucks at it.
The problem isn't that there is a lack of ventilator designs it's that there's a lack of physical ventilators which means it's a manufacturing/supply chain/logistics problem not an R&D problem. That won't be solved with yet another design.
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It could be, or maybe we just had bad luck too. I don't think the design of the motorised head was good at all, since as I said I found hair and dust got through the cracks into the housing and I needed star shaped screwdrivers to get in there and clean it. And the main body has a flimsy flap that opens/closes with airflow, but it gets stuck very easily with our dust situation. So I have to pick at it down the tube (…
Interesting. I have had my V10 for about 16 months and, short-battery life aside, it has been flawless. I also have a bagged Miele and the Dyson vacuums circles around it, extracting far more dirt from carpeting. Night and day difference. I will say the general build quality of the Miele seems superior in the classic sense but I think I'd have to use it 5X as much as the Dyson for the same results.
Yeah I'm willing to accept they improved over the years, I'm just reticent on getting another based on experience.
We use our Miele cat&dog model less than we should, but when we do it's noticeably stronger. Cord & bag is just inconvenient after you get used to the Dyson for daily touch ups (I swear my dog puts 90% of his calories into hair production).