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What source do you have that confirms this? Everything I've read says it is not yet determined if this is the case.
I believe you can get reinfected with a different strain of the same virus. Not the one you initially got infected with though.
The immunity might last a month or a year. Or two weeks or ten years. That we don’t know.
Interesting to see the comments suggesting that we should expect the NHS to pay if there is a problem that needs solving. It seems the implication is that labour should never be done voluntarily (even in a crisis situation) in a free economy. I find it bleak that we expect our societies and markets to function, solely driven by "selfish" value-chasing individuals. As someone who has grown up benefitting from the NHS,…
We can't buy groceries, nor pay rent nor utilities with volunteer hours. So long as we're subjected to Capitalist demands, we'll be forced to demand Capitalist compensation, or perish.
Mixed feeling about this. The NHS should be funded to run some of these services. However, it a good way for people to contribute. Still worried about a slippery slope - free at the point of need. No relying on extra support. If we need it pay people to do the job.
It is a pandemic. There is no reserve of uninfected, refreshed people. I suspect a part of the reason for the call is to communicate that we are not in normal times and the idea of paying someone to make your problems go away doesn't work. Help or get out of the way, your payment will be a slightly less broken country when this is past.
Interesting to see the comments suggesting that we should expect the NHS to pay if there is a problem that needs solving. It seems the implication is that labour should never be done voluntarily (even in a crisis situation) in a free economy. I find it bleak that we expect our societies and markets to function, solely driven by "selfish" value-chasing individuals. As someone who has grown up benefitting from the NHS,…
This implies that paid labour is basically free for governments at the moment. They can either pay people jobless claims, or hire people for the new work that needs doing.
Volunteers are also a great idea! But I want to emphasize that governments shouldn't shy away from projects now if the labour costs money. Because they're currently about to pay people to not labour. So any outlay in salary is a savings on unemployment claims.
Wouldn’t it be more appropriate just to hire people and set them to work in the NHS? It’s way past time the government stopped messing around and just hired all the spare labour - which can then be directed to assist the NHS or directed to stay at home as required. When there are so many people without work that want it we need to stop QE’ing Gilts and start QE’ing workers hours instead. All this could be done with a…
What will they spend it on? They can't go out, can't spend it on anything but essentials and some percentage of those essentials are difficult to get anyway.
Amazon.
Wouldn’t it be more appropriate just to hire people and set them to work in the NHS? It’s way past time the government stopped messing around and just hired all the spare labour - which can then be directed to assist the NHS or directed to stay at home as required. When there are so many people without work that want it we need to stop QE’ing Gilts and start QE’ing workers hours instead. All this could be done with a…
People who don't want any money often provide the best service (and in this case will most likely also have the lowest likelihood of carrying the virus).
Wouldn’t it be more appropriate just to hire people and set them to work in the NHS? It’s way past time the government stopped messing around and just hired all the spare labour - which can then be directed to assist the NHS or directed to stay at home as required. When there are so many people without work that want it we need to stop QE’ing Gilts and start QE’ing workers hours instead. All this could be done with a…
> “Pay people and they spend it - keeping the economic circulation ticking over.” There isn’t actually much to spend it on right now, other than rent, groceries, and online entertainment. Everything else is closed and my bank balance is actually looking much more healthy than it normally would this far into the month!
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It's funny to see that the government regulations on employing people make it too hard for the government to bother going through with them, so they try to find a backdoor by hiring volunteers instead. One would think that the government will think on their feet and relax the burden at least in the time of life-threatening crisis.
These burdens are put in place to prevent employer (as in superiors, not the folks you serve) abuse. They would abuse government servants here and there if it were easily replaced.
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It's funny to see that the government regulations on employing people make it too hard for the government to bother going through with them, so they try to find a backdoor by hiring volunteers instead. One would think that the government will think on their feet and relax the burden at least in the time of life-threatening crisis.
These burdens are put in place to prevent employer (as in superiors, not the folks you serve) abuse. They would abuse government servants here and there if it were easily replaced.
Taiwan, which has one of the best medical systems in the world, is heavily reliant on civil society -- which is many things, but one of which is heavy participation by unpaid volunteers. Social capital is a real thing and a valuable thing.
The pre-existence of a volunteer (or other flavors) culture in a society may also contribute to superior widespread compliance with the various directives issues by governments. Asian countries seemed to have reacted better in this case - undoubtedly a major chunk of that was due to prior outbreaks in that region, but is that the only variable that contributed to the outcome?