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Jitsi Meet: An open source alternative to Zoom

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Re: Jitsi Meet: An open source alternative to Zoom

#132
I'm the creator of a remote-first community/open source project called CodeBuddies (a not-for-profit), and we built Jitsi into our hangouts (meetings anyone can schedule to pair program or study together) -- i.e. whenever someone schedules a hangout to meet with someone else in the community, we embed Jitsi as an iframe onto the event page.

We initially used Google Hangouts for the project in 2014, and we've been using Jitsi ever since Google Hangouts deprecated its API in 2017.

I generally love Jitsi; like Google Hangouts, it allows multiple people to screenshare simultaneously in our virtual coworking sessions. However, I have stumbled upon a couple of issues with it: - higher rates of audio or screensharing issues, especially when the participants are long distance or if one of them has a poor wifi connection, or is on an older computer. - screensharing with the browser extension sometimes doesn't work, or times out

We're actually rebuilding the CodeBuddies platform right now, and for the next iteration I am strongly considering paying for the Zoom API instead because it's more accessible to people with lower quality wifi connections and for folks on older machines.

Re: Jitsi Meet: An open source alternative to Zoom

#133

I looked at Jitsi recently as I was thinking about self-hosting it (I have the bandwidth). My concerns: It seems to be based on XMPP and require an XMPP server. They offer a quick-start guide on configuring it however I am not sure how secure the default configuration is - I'm worried the quick start guide is about "get it working", not "make it secure" and I don't have XMPP knowledge nor the desire to learn a compli…

Jitsi uses XMPP(prosody) for MUC- basically coordination and control of sessions. XMPP is not exposed directly to the user, they use a BOSH client abstraction to convert that to http. It is actually good design and scales well. we have scaled the bridge to 500 plus concurrent sessions without lot of production tuning in non P2P mode (generally harder more resource intensive).

> BOSH client abstraction to convert that to http

This still means the outside world can interact with the XMPP server, correct?

If so then this is my concern - an XMPP server seems like a huge attack surface for the tiny bit of functionality Jitsi needs (I'm confident it's using less than 10% of the actual capabilities of the XMPP server, which means the rest of the code paths are mostly untested in this scenario and are ripe for abuse and potential exploits).

In your case, is this an internal server or is it open to the Internet?

Re: Jitsi Meet: An open source alternative to Zoom

#134

It's very disheartening that when you try to connect with firefox, it says you should use chrome. This is a direct stab in the heart of the people who would favor it over zoom because it is free software.

It worked better for me in Firefox than Chromium.

Re: Jitsi Meet: An open source alternative to Zoom

#135

I looked at Jitsi recently as I was thinking about self-hosting it (I have the bandwidth). My concerns: It seems to be based on XMPP and require an XMPP server. They offer a quick-start guide on configuring it however I am not sure how secure the default configuration is - I'm worried the quick start guide is about "get it working", not "make it secure" and I don't have XMPP knowledge nor the desire to learn a compli…

Jitsi grew out of Google's Jingle extensions to the Jabber protocol for voice and video calls. And WebRTC call initiation requires at least a custom solution for exchanging SDP messages. So if you don't want to have an XMPP server in your setup, you need another server to handle all that signaling.

My argument is that it would require less code (thus less potential bugs and vulnerabilities) to implement the SDP exchange. I'm suspecting that Jitsi only uses a tiny bit of the capabilities of the XMPP server which means most of it is there doing nothing besides being a potential liability.

Re: Jitsi Meet: An open source alternative to Zoom

#136
post #99

I was wondering just now why in the midst of all this remote working boom Jitsi Meet is seldom mention. Jitsi Meet has been absolutely stellar every time I've used it. Great interface, not bloated even when running in a browser with 10+ other people, plenty of options to manage conferences with many people (raise-your-hand button, selective muting/soloing, etc). Creating a chat is as easy as typing a name and hitting…

Jitsi meet is not end-to-end encrypted [1]. Rather, it is encrypted with TLS between the client and the server, which doesn’t provide the same security/privacy benefit at all.

The website says it’s “fully encrypted,” which I think is misleading.

[1] https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/blob/master/README.md#se...

Edit: WebRTC does not support end-to-end encryption for multiple peers. This means it’s impossible for any browser-supported videoconferencing platform to support e2e encryption, including Zoom and Jitsi. This is where Jitsi actually has a unique advantage - it can be self hosted, which offers the same security benefits as e2e encryption.

Re: Jitsi Meet: An open source alternative to Zoom

#137

I've tried Jitsi Meet and found it to be smooth. During a hangout call with a group of ~8 friends I introduced it as an alternative. User experience comparison: Onboarding: Jitsi: Click a URL. No accounts. Hangouts: Google account. Need to individually invite other Google accounts. Video Quality: Jitsi: Decent, slightly better than hangouts. Hangouts: Passable but grainy. Video Layout: Jitsi: Automatically big-screen…

>Has option to tile to equally size screens. Hangouts: Same.

Where is the option in hangouts to tile equally? I've never found it and I hate the large speaker small others in some situations.

Re: Jitsi Meet: An open source alternative to Zoom

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post #57

I've tried Jitsi Meet and found it to be smooth. During a hangout call with a group of ~8 friends I introduced it as an alternative. User experience comparison: Onboarding: Jitsi: Click a URL. No accounts. Hangouts: Google account. Need to individually invite other Google accounts. Video Quality: Jitsi: Decent, slightly better than hangouts. Hangouts: Passable but grainy. Video Layout: Jitsi: Automatically big-screen…

I can't convince anyone to not use Facetime.

I feel bad for you. None of my friends use Apple products.

But I imagine if your friends aren't nerds this is a real problem. My wife has to deal with it.

Re: Jitsi Meet: An open source alternative to Zoom

#140

I can't seem to schedule meeting like Zoom?

I assume the use case there is that you create a meeting and then put the link in the calendar invite that you send. But, I'd like to know more about how long your "own" that meeting URL before it expires. I'll ask in the jitsi forums.

The meeting technically exists as long as there are participants. Anyone can join the url so if you pick something unique and hard to guess you'll probably be the only one to ever use it.
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