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School districts take unplanned plunge into online learning

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A lot of schools are leaving parents almost entirely (or entirely) on their own.

I run an edtech company, and we started offering free access to our reading software soon after shutdowns started two weeks ago. We have heard from a lot of teachers and administrators, but we've also heard from many parents who are trying to educate their kids with little to no support.

Although it is more efficient for us to create accounts for teachers (and cover 30 students simultaneously), we heard from so many parents who can't get ahold of their kids' teachers that we started making temporary accounts for parents also. It has been shocking to hear how many parents are unable to even contact their kids' teachers — I have a small child who is home from school, and if the teacher were MIA I would be surprised and not thrilled (though in these unprecedented times, kindness and flexibility are important to keep in mind!).

Re: School districts take unplanned plunge into online learning

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I can't wait until the kids all realize why the adults prefer to WFH. When this is all over they're going wonder why they have to go back to getting up early to catch the bus to spend all day sitting in uncomfortable plastic chairs and being told to be quiet and stay off their phone. My oldest daughter just graduated from an online high school. We get it. Now the rest of the country is going to get it.

Do most adults prefer WFH? I mean sure, I prefer WFH if I have a 2 hour round trip commute, but on a 30 minute or less? The office interactions are worth it.

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Won't work with elementary school kids (son in first grade), I'll have to sit with him on his zoom sessions to keep the peace, and it's not pleasant when you have 24 kids + parents simultaneously on a session. I rather have him do Khan, SD Math and Reading eggs on his own time.

Yep we just got started for my kindergartner and it's a disaster so far. It takes constant supervision to get him to do any work. My mother reminded me that I was in half day school through second grade (830-12, including lunch) and she says she made no special effort to enhance my academics after school. This did not stop me from taking all the moderately advanced math I could get my hands on later in school, at least through the end of high school. I also fates decently in writing and reading throughout.

So I am taking a low pressure approach, mostly focused on writing (reading and math are things the child will do without supervision if they come in the form of screen time). I still feel he is severely missing out because K is mostly about socializing, but at least he won't be behind anyone else his age on this front.

There are going to be all kinds of interesting sociology studies on the kids who went through school this year.

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Seattle punted for equity -- (following state level recommendations).

“OSPI does not recommend an online distance learning model unless a district can ensure that all students will have equal access to learning,” the district’s COVID-19 update page says. “Seattle Public Schools is the largest district in our state with a diverse student population and many of our students do not have regular access to technology or the internet.”

https://www.geekwire.com/2020/seattle-public-schools-closing...

Re: School districts take unplanned plunge into online learning

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A lot of schools are leaving parents almost entirely (or entirely) on their own. I run an edtech company, and we started offering free access to our reading software soon after shutdowns started two weeks ago. We have heard from a lot of teachers and administrators, but we've also heard from many parents who are trying to educate their kids with little to no support. Although it is more efficient for us to create acc…

Are you guys hiring? My wife is looking for work. (masters in ed psych with a lot of experience designing lms and facilitating training)

Re: School districts take unplanned plunge into online learning

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Seattle punted for equity -- (following state level recommendations). “OSPI does not recommend an online distance learning model unless a district can ensure that all students will have equal access to learning,” the district’s COVID-19 update page says. “Seattle Public Schools is the largest district in our state with a diverse student population and many of our students do not have regular access to technology or t…

Private schools are able to make different assumptions about their students and have almost all gone to online learning during the pandemic. This, along with an uptake in technology, is creating a clear win for private education if you can afford it for your kids, further draining public systems of their more well to do students.

Re: School districts take unplanned plunge into online learning

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My kid is a kindergarten student at a very well-resourced school in Silicon Valley. Pretty immediately, they set up a virtual learning system that is used to assign tasks and for kids to share work. I appreciate that the teachers are doing what they can, but honestly for younger kids this sort of thing isn't really that helpful.

The system is far from seamless (even as someone who runs an edtech startup, I have found it very difficult to navigate). A task that takes the kid 5 mins to complete often takes at least as long to upload/process. That's not a good time ratio when you're looking to have your kid occupied so you can work/make food/etc.

Instead of using the online system, we are taking this as an opportunity to let our child explore interests and get much more personalized learning than is given at school. Khan Academy has been great for math, and the books we read at home are more advanced than the standardized assignments given online.

Doing things this way definitely takes a bit of time from our schedules, but I'm not sure it actually takes more time than if we did the online stuff. And at the end of the day, our child will have learned much more and with a more engaged attitude. Honestly, I think one of the bigger risks/downsides is that our kid will develop an arrogant attitude toward school — that it's too easy and not worth paying attention to.

Re: School districts take unplanned plunge into online learning

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post #35

A lot of schools are leaving parents almost entirely (or entirely) on their own. I run an edtech company, and we started offering free access to our reading software soon after shutdowns started two weeks ago. We have heard from a lot of teachers and administrators, but we've also heard from many parents who are trying to educate their kids with little to no support. Although it is more efficient for us to create acc…

Are you guys hiring? My wife is looking for work. (masters in ed psych with a lot of experience designing lms and facilitating training)

We could, if the right candidate came along. We are actually just about to announce that our tech has been adopted by a major LMS, so the timing could be interesting. user name at gee mail for more info!

Re: School districts take unplanned plunge into online learning

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Seattle punted for equity -- (following state level recommendations). “OSPI does not recommend an online distance learning model unless a district can ensure that all students will have equal access to learning,” the district’s COVID-19 update page says. “Seattle Public Schools is the largest district in our state with a diverse student population and many of our students do not have regular access to technology or t…

Many jurisdictions around the world are already planning that all students will need to repeat the year, at least for those in the final year of school who wish to sit SATs (etc). Its unclear how the school infrastructure will handle that. Particularly, whether an extra year needs to be accommodated in schools, or you just keep the same students in the same position.

This obviously has flow on impacts to Universities and childcare/kindergarten.

Its probably a good opportunity to question whether University for All is still a good idea. Keeping University for the top 15% of students, and redirecting everyone else into the workforce or Tradeschool probably makes a lot of sense now. There will be no 'bullshit jobs' left after this is over anyway.

Re: School districts take unplanned plunge into online learning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Public schools are generally pretty terrible at socialization. The students interact mostly only with kids of their same exact age. Bullying and violence are ubiquitous. Sure, you learn how to conduct yourself in that particular environment, but it's unlike any other environment you'll see in your adult life outside of a prison.

If a third grader hangs around third graders all day in school then I would expect those would be his friends. Until he starts participating in activities where kids participate in where the grades get mixed (ie. school basketball team). This seems entirely appropriate to me. And you're comparing public schools to prison? Remote learning for all of them would fix this?

The point is that of all of the places where a kid could be socialized the public schools are at best sub-par and at worst counterproductive. It seems appropriate to you likely because it's a societal norm and it's what you've experienced, but it's not the best environment that you can give your child.

And I don't know why you're clutching your pearls about the prison comparison. It's a common topic of discussion, how the public schools are similar to prisons, employ similar methodologies, how the stakeholders have similar motivations, and even how the two systems are symbiotic with one another.

I'm not saying remote work will necessarily solve everyone's problems, but that if you're concerned about your child's socialization you should be concerned about what's happening to him in the public schools.

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