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Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

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Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#101
It's a recession, not an apocalypse. These are kind of old news:

1. Budgeting. Know exactly where your money goes and what dials you can turn.

2. It's less about skills than products and services. So it becomes a better time to be a Costco or a cobbler (which helps people save money) than to be a Tesla (which helps people spend money).

For software, my suspicion is infinite monthly SaaS subscriptions will come under more scrutiny. And it might be a bad time to run a money-bleeding self-driving car startup. But that's my only firm guess at this point.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#102

Mental self-care and acceptance of negative experiences. Working out in small areas/body weight exercises. Cooking on a budget. Getting out of your own head and own problems and into thinking about other people, is also immensely psychologically healthy.

> Getting out of your own head and own problems and into thinking about other people, is also immensely psychologically healthy. Hmm, anyone have any tips about what to do if this actually just overwhelms and depresses you? I can deal emotionally with my own problems fairly well. But when I start thinking about the wide spread suffering among both the people I know and care about as well as the world at large,I get i…

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Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#103

Honestly, I don’t believe we will see a huge depression unless there is war. People are still available for work and all the equipment used for producing value is in good conditions. So long as government provides fiscal stimulus, depression shouldn’t happen. In case it happens though, you are better of farming stuff like potatoes and chicken than developing software until government steps in with fiscal stimulus, th…

We may be okay if COVID is our only real threat. Self isolation won't be impeded, and hospitals will not over saturate. If anything disturbs self isolation, like a massive earthquake, drought, Australian like fires, or like you say a war, there is no chance of a quick rebounding economy.

That being said, as an aside, imagine slipping into a 3 month coma from a heavy Christmas 2019 party and waking up to eight other people on ventilators in your room. Imagine finding out Kobie Bryant died, that the USA assassinated a top Iranian military figure, and that the world economy dropped 35% in 1 month.

You'd think there was a war.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#104

Math and physics carried me through two recessions so far. I never got rich, but also never poor.

It's a bit of a tangent, but do you have any advice on how to self-learn math? I'd like to complete some CLEP classes so I can meet the prerequisites for a CS program, but it's tough to learn on my own.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#105
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More emotion, less logic. People like to feel good. They don't necessarily want to learn something new. Crack jokes, banter, wear a smile, but don't be a clown. Best way is to surround yourself by people who do the same. Do not feel discouraged when they "throw a knife" (take the piss) your way, as it's a test of your conversational and mental frame. Agree and amplify, and laughs will be had. Then again, don't surrou…

> Point is, have fun. Don't be a walking talking wikipedia page of logical facts. This is sort of what I am. I think it started long ago maybe when I felt as if this is one way I can provide value: to give you facts. I'm aware that this is a problem, in that by doing this I'm not really engaged in a back-and-forth conversation -- I've been aware of this for some time, it's just that it's hard to transition away from…

Maybe I can help convince you to make the change...

It might be useful to -- consider that your information is... not useful.

By this I mean that you should be interested in how people react to new information in general. In some cases, people take this information and act on it. In most cases, they don't. It's very hard to convince someone, especially a stranger, to do something differently just by providing them new information.

Don't take my word for it. You don't even need to look to others to find the truth to this. Just look to yourself.

How often do you tangibly change your actions based on new information? I'm sure you have some less than desirable habits, and I'm sure you have know enough information to know that these habits are not helpful. Yet, even with this information, have you changed these habits?

I am similar. I sometimes struggle to engage in conversation... I'd rather just walk away and do something interesting to me. And this is fine, you don't need to always engage in conversation. But when you do, it shouldn't be to just dump information on people. This isn't effective. Even with people who you have close, intimate relationships with... it's even hard to change these people. Even if you do have the right information, it needs to be delivered with patience. You can't expect them to change overnight. You can't even expect them to change at all. If you want to tell someone something, you must do it with compassion, and expect that if they are going to take this information from you, it will be on their own time.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#106

I think the most important skill is learning how to gain access to zero-interest loans from the Federal Reserve. This skill allows you to lend to your buddies who can purchase distressed businesses and properties for pennies on the dollar, which gives you and them the opportunity to make billions in profits while everybody else is suffering. I’m still trying to learn how to do this; if anybody has any information abo…

which gives you the opportunity to make billions in profits while everybody else is suffering. And hopefully utilize those profits to help fewer suffer.

And write book reviews explaining why the world will suffer a lot less if only more plebs will fall in line with your view of what is best for them.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#107

People are acting as though we're going back to a pre-industrial economy with this. It's not true. The power isn't going out. The water will continue to come out of the tap. So my suggestion short term is: learn to cook if you don't know how to. Not fancy, haute cuisine, but how to take whatever's in the pantry and make something tasty out of it. Learn how to grow some produce in small spaces, even if it's just herbs…

I'm am really trying to determine whether or not this will be the next great depression.

Yes, but perhaps not in the way that you might think.

There were a number of structural factors that led to the great depression: gold standard currency and restrictive monetary policy at the Fed, overly restrictive tariff laws, simultaneous drought that destroyed a lot of farmland, rampant financial fraud, lack of deposit insurance at banks causing numerous bank runs and failures.

Basically all of the above is different now. The modern Fed is organized around preventing the monetary mistakes made during the depression. We are on purely fiat currency now, not the volatile gold standard. Food security is hugely increased, and restrictive tariffs have not impacted the ag industry of Canada and Mexico, which are key supports of the US's food supply chain. We have the FDIC for deposit insurance and increased post-Great Recession capital controls on systemically important financial institutions (SIFIs).

We have also learned from the Roosevelt interventions of the 1930's that it requires both a strong monetary and fiscal policy to address a systemic shock to the economy. So it might take some time for stimulus to arrive, but it should be incoming.

Finally, we have the internet. Not to oversell it, but it's a significant asset that can ensure a degree of continuity of supplies, services and employment in an event such as this. Yes - it's not perfect and many necessary jobs can not be done over the internet. But it's better than the alternative.

So, my feeling is that we are heading into the most significant non-wartime economic event since the great depression, but if cards are played properly we should be able to mitigate the terrible effects to a much better degree than was possible in the 1930's.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#108
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Freelance general practitioners are massively being laid off (contracts terminated, no new opportunities) at the moment in the Netherlands. Almost no one is allowed to come to a gp office, anything that is not urgent is postponed...

Doctors should start making house calls again. In full protective gear

They do, as little as possible.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#109
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More emotion, less logic. People like to feel good. They don't necessarily want to learn something new. Crack jokes, banter, wear a smile, but don't be a clown. Best way is to surround yourself by people who do the same. Do not feel discouraged when they "throw a knife" (take the piss) your way, as it's a test of your conversational and mental frame. Agree and amplify, and laughs will be had. Then again, don't surrou…

> Point is, have fun. Don't be a walking talking wikipedia page of logical facts. This is sort of what I am. I think it started long ago maybe when I felt as if this is one way I can provide value: to give you facts. I'm aware that this is a problem, in that by doing this I'm not really engaged in a back-and-forth conversation -- I've been aware of this for some time, it's just that it's hard to transition away from…

Sure, but one shouldn't feel obligated to provide value. Providing intellectual stimulation when unasked for immediately marks one (to the lay person) as the proverbial know-it-all. Their body language will speak magnitudes; just watch the direction of their feet. Anything more than 30 degrees away from your direction will indicate they are not interested in the service you think you may be providing.

You must gain confidence. Have confidence in yourself, and you will find others will do the difficult conversational parts for you. The quickest way to gain confidence is to learn to lift compound weights and to increase the weight over the years.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#110

My thought is that this virus will have passed through the world, one way or another, in 4-8 months. After that, the world reverts back to what it was doing. My point is that this is no underlying weakness in the global economy. It's more like a slow moving natural disaster. I'll admit I don't feel super confident that this is how things work. Happy to be corrected!

> My point is that this is no underlying weakness in the global economy.

Unfortunately, this is not at all true. There is a tremendous amount of debt in the system and we are on the precipice of a credit crisis that could wipe out a significant chunk of the global economy.

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