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I think this is a good question. Here are some random observations on Japan: 1. Japan, Tokyo area in particular, is crowded but clean and neat. 2. The Japanese, contradicting western prejudice, are not particular healthy. Lots of heavy drinking and smoking. 3. The Japanese never did a China travel ban. Lots of trade with and tourism from China. I personally guess the answer to the question is that they did very good…
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It wouldn't hide it FOR LONG. In a month, we'll know which hypothesis was correct.
It’s unlikely to take that long, in the US our number of dead ~= number of infected 2 weeks ago. Part of that is from in insufficient testing, but 30+% daily increases mean 2,600+% growth per month.
In South Korea epidemic was started with one sick cult member spreading it to wast number of people. In Italy the person who started Lombardy cluster was first asymptomatic for weeks, was later misdiagnosed and spreading the disease in hospital. It seems that the epidemic is starting without similar super-spreaders in Japan. Case fatality deaths to recovered rate in Japan is 18%. In South Korea it's 6.6%. This might…
Patient zero in Lombardy has never been found.
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- Almost everybody wear mask when they are sick to avoid contaminating others. They do that since way before Cornavirus and on voluntary based. We're told that masks do not work
Nobody should be saying that masks do not work. When worn by a sick person, they very effectively prevent droplets from leaving the mouth. They also help not breathing in contamination, as airborne viruses are usually contained in droplets. But there are other ways to get infected, so they don't help as much as people think they do.
Generally they were clickbaity articles with headlines stating exactly that, but content stating the more reasonable idea that masks/gloves don't work (and may in fact cause more problems than they solve) if you don't use them correctly.
eg. someone buys a mask, keeps using the same mask day after day while handling the mask in way that may make the inside of it a contaminated surface, etc.
Some days ago, I found this comment from someone living in Japan. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22605657
But other threads further up pointed out that even with massive under-testing, it should be hard to cover up a COVID-19 outbreak if it spread exponentially as expected – there would be reports of hospitals being overloaded and having to turn away people with severe symptoms, so maybe something else is going on.
In South Korea epidemic was started with one sick cult member spreading it to wast number of people. In Italy the person who started Lombardy cluster was first asymptomatic for weeks, was later misdiagnosed and spreading the disease in hospital. It seems that the epidemic is starting without similar super-spreaders in Japan. Case fatality deaths to recovered rate in Japan is 18%. In South Korea it's 6.6%. This might…
Notably, there's a big difference between South Korea - which seems to largely have largely gotten the epidemic under control, and Italy where it seems to be totally out of control despite a severe lockdown. Whats a key difference between South Korea and Italy? Widespread use of face masks.
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agree, we will know in a month, but even if govt is lying about cases, we should be seeing a deluge of patients in the ICUs and rise in deaths and we aren't seeing that
How would you know they haven’t? If you don’t test a death for the virus, the death doesn’t show up in virus death counts. And if you aren’t in a hospitals, the deaths wouldn’t show yet. At some point it would become too big to ignore. But is Japan there yet? This is definitely a space to watch over the next 2-3 weeks.
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Riding the subway doesn't make you sick. Not washing your hands and then touching your face with hands that have the virus from touching parts of the train makes you sick. You can't touch your face much if you have a mask on it. The virus doesn't just float around in the air. It only exists in water particles that fall quickly onto surfaces.
This is commonly believed, but how do we know how true it is? If breathing particles into your throat and lungs is the primary vector (seems likely to me, although I don’t know exactly what is), then what you are saying is wrong. It seems that masks are being de-emphasised, based on the obvious fake reason of saving the retail stock for the front-line workers (how does avoiding buying retail stock magically get masks…
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I do wish US politicians would tell people to go back to work, but wear operation masks.
Where would we find operation masks? s far as I can tell they’re still sold out literally everywhere.
There are plenty of patterns for cotton masks online and I think ways to use a 3D printer to make one. I would much rather just buy one, myself.