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Bayer donates 3M chloroquine phosphate tablets for potential Covid-19 treatment

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Re: Bayer donates 3M chloroquine phosphate tablets for potential Covid-19 treatment

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jshevek wrote: post #130
blhack wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like you disagree with my implication that use of something (in this case, chloroquine to treat covid-19, the use of which seems to be increasing daily) implies its efficacy. Why? I'm modeling the doctors and health officials who are making these decisions as agents which are presumably continuously evaluating their decisions. So basically: A lot of experts are taking this action -> assume the action has a d…

No. Here, as in several places, you make unwarranted assumptions about other's thought processes. Remember that "efficacy" is a matter of degree. I try not to spend too much time and effort on strawmen.

I'm trying to understand you here. Is the assumption that doctors are taking actions based on previous experience with those sorts of actions unwarranted in your opinion? Or a strawman?

I'm sorry if but I'm having a difficult time figuring out what I have said that you disagreed with.

Re: Bayer donates 3M chloroquine phosphate tablets for potential Covid-19 treatment

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Post by dang »

Lldjjxnn wrote: post #60
wazoox wrote: post #48

Warning: chloroquine has strong side-effects, and very high toxicity, unfortunately pretty close to therapeutic doses, that may cause serious arrhythmia, and even heart attacks. Don't ever try to self-medicate with chloroquine.

Does hydroxycholoquinine have the same side effect profile as choloquinine

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Re: Bayer donates 3M chloroquine phosphate tablets for potential Covid-19 treatment

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Post by jshevek »

blhack wrote: post #131
jshevek wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Here, as in several places, you make unwarranted assumptions about other's thought processes. Remember that "efficacy" is a matter of degree. I try not to spend too much time and effort on strawmen.

I'm trying to understand you here. Is the assumption that doctors are taking actions based on previous experience with those sorts of actions unwarranted in your opinion? Or a strawman? I'm sorry if but I'm having a difficult time figuring out what I have said that you disagreed with.

You seem sincere, and unlike prior comments to be approaching this in good faith. Maybe you even welcome criticism as a means of improving your thought process. I don't mean to be cryptic, and certainly don't mean to be rude, I just try to conserve energy and not get caught up in non-constructive arguments.

You don't seem to be taking people's statements at face value, but rather projecting additional meaning onto them, almost as if you conceive of fewer possible positions than there actually are, and pigeonhole us.

Consider my prior two statements in this thread which start with "the fact" and "you were". Do you agree that these statements were correct, on their own terms, in their own context, and independent of additional complexities involving degree if efficacy or various arguments for or against use, testing, or hopefulness?

Also, do you see that the people who disagree with your framing are not 'picking nits' nor are they having 'struck nerves'? Can you see other reasons why they might respond as they did?

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