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GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by gambiting »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #106
xnyan wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you were fired with cause so no unemployment insurance because America is barbaric.

Due to current circumstances, I believe it unlikely unemployment insurance claims will denied in this situation. If you work at GameStop, call the local authorities, get a copy of the police report, go home and file for unemployment.

>>unemployment insurance

What's that? Is that a thing people have in US? I'm honestly curious, never heard of such a thing, outside of a context of mortage insurance which can cover you temporarily if you lose your job.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by toomuchtodo »

gambiting wrote: post #151
toomuchtodo wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Due to current circumstances, I believe it unlikely unemployment insurance claims will denied in this situation. If you work at GameStop, call the local authorities, get a copy of the police report, go home and file for unemployment.

>>unemployment insurance What's that? Is that a thing people have in US? I'm honestly curious, never heard of such a thing, outside of a context of mortage insurance which can cover you temporarily if you lose your job.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/unemployment-insurance

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by dvtrn »

ceilingcorner wrote: post #138
dvtrn wrote: post #136

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I'm not being snarky, I'm trying to understand your disagreement with the medical community who have repeatedly advised us "this is not like these other things, please do not compare them to these other things" vs your responses of "why aren't we acting like this with other stuff" and essentially doing exactly what the people trying to get us out of this are saying DON'T DO. That's my point. Could I have an answer?

Well it's certainly not "just another flu" so I don't disagree with doctors there at all. I mentioned it in another comment, but: the doctors are not the problem here. Of course doctors will recommend the best medical advice and I don't doubt the medical consensus. The issue is a broader one: what are the societal and economic consequences of total shutdown? Are these consequences better or worse than the estimated d…

These are difficult questions and I don't pretend to have the answers. I'm simply noting that even suggesting an alternate path is shouted down.

Reading this thread, and several others and watching several other discourses, I do not see that to really be the case in whole. In part maybe, in whole? No.

Disagreements are being had sure about this or that element of this situation, but disagreements have great capacity to forment solutions whereas this 'taking your ball home' attitude of assuming dissent implicates snark and disagreements implicate being "shouted down" (especially when, as you've done earlier: presenting various whatabouts when there are people who are actively trying to understand this disease and bring about solutions are screaming "STOP THAT") is it self an alternative path I think many people prefer to avoid.

Good luck. Wash your hands.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by barbecue_sauce »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #49
KingMachiavelli wrote: post #46

At least working at a GameStop in 2020 is pretty close self isolating. TBH I don't quite understand the outlash against some business deciding to stay open. A GameStop doesn't take more than 1 or 2 people to run, especially right now, and transactions are pretty simple and inovlve minimal contact. And they have a point about selling products people may want during this time. As far as I know, Walmart will still sell…

> It's probably more dangerous to have to go to a Walmart either food or video games compared to going to a GameStop given the # of people typically at Wallmart. This might be a reasonable point, except that there's no reason to leave your house at all if the only thing you want to buy is a video game. (And of course, if you need food and video games, making an additional trip to Gamestop can only hurt compared to ge…

And, though Walmart is likely to have a higher number of customers present, the concentration of people can be much lower in a 150,000 sq ft warehouse store then a 300 sq ft Gamestop (provided people are following proper social distancing).

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by throwawaysea »

kazagistar wrote: post #108
throwawaysea wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“While being good members of society” is an argument often used to justify suppression of free speech and other authoritarian tactics.

I'm pretty sure free speech being used the justify making society worse is the bigger more real danger we experience in the present day.

I strongly disagree. Free speech is fundamental to any society that respects individuals, their freedoms/agency, and letting ideas compete. If anything, the most alarming trend is people railing against free speech without any understanding of what it's like to live in suppressed societies.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by barbecue_sauce »

ebrenes wrote: post #147

Someone with a bit more knowledge, but isn't this basically correct, despite how moronic it sounds. Yesterday I was looking at California's critical sector list[1] and it seems stores like GameStop would be covered as critical infrastructure at a first glance. And it listed the following: Retail (e.g., retail centers and districts, shopping malls).[2] [1] https://www.cisa.gov/critical-infrastructure-sectors [2] https…

In PA, the governor published a spreadsheet that covers all infrastructure sectors and sub-categories with a clear "Yes" or "No" cell to indicate whether they were permitted to stay open. This is specific to COVID-19, however. The CISA guidelines seem very general and not even cognizant of this type of situation (even if you go to the section about COVID-19). California should (if it doesn't) have its own plan that is possibly informed by CISA but enacted by its governor.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by gambiting »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #152
gambiting wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>unemployment insurance What's that? Is that a thing people have in US? I'm honestly curious, never heard of such a thing, outside of a context of mortage insurance which can cover you temporarily if you lose your job.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/unemployment-insurance

Oh, so just like unemployment benefits then. It's not actually an insurance you need to purchase beforehand.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by bumby »

gambiting wrote: post #157
toomuchtodo wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/unemployment-insurance

Oh, so just like unemployment benefits then. It's not actually an insurance you need to purchase beforehand.

It’s insurance paid by employers to the government through a tax.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by gambiting »

bumby wrote: post #158
gambiting wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, so just like unemployment benefits then. It's not actually an insurance you need to purchase beforehand.

It’s insurance paid by employers to the government through a tax.

So....it's the same thing? It's just in UK you don't call it insurance. But it's also paid from taxes

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Post by bumby »

gambiting wrote: post #159
bumby wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s insurance paid by employers to the government through a tax.

So....it's the same thing? It's just in UK you don't call it insurance. But it's also paid from taxes

I don’t know why it’s called “insurance” other than I suspect it removes some of the entitlement stigma associated with it
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