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GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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These executives are showing their true selves in this crisis and it is absolutely disgusting. From Elon Musk to Jeff Bezos, these are not idols, they are parasites on our society.

GameStop is running on fumes. If they close down their stores, they will completely lose their business. By staying open, they are at least collecting some revenue. Also, these employees should be thankful they even have a job right now. Many retail / service industry jobs have laid off their staff.

The writing has been on the wall for GameStop for quite some time. Amazon and digital sales have made them pretty irrelevant and not much can be done. Just how capitalism goes.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

#102
Here's a crazy idea:

In order to speed up this quarantine, we should ask for "herd immunity volunteers" who basically volunteer to get infected (healthy young adults only). They would go into their own quarantine until they are no longer infected in which case they can be released into society, and since they are now immune, may be suited for certain jobs that require contact with infected.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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> " Before throwing out insults, consider that GameStop probably has to try and stay open, or they'll go extinct. " At the potential risk of human lives? Even if we say that customers are coming in voluntarily, it isn't the executives at GameStop manning the counter at these stores; if it were, people would have less objection. Those staff are ordinary people like you or I.

This is a short-sighted view. If GameStop closes, they will go out of business. If they go out of business, these employees will lose their jobs. I see no reason why a GameStop employee can't just quit or refuse to come to work if he/she fears getting infected.

> I see no reason why a GameStop employee can't just quit or refuse to come to work if he/she fears getting infected.

You see no reason? I'll give you one:

In most jurisdictions, if your employer lays you off or closes their doors, you can apply for some kind of benefits, e.g. EI up here in Canada.

But if you quit your job on principle, you don't get benefits and have to live on whatever savings you've amassed working a retail job.

It seems you believe that everything should remain open, everyone should keep going to work, and hey, if you don't like it, quit your job and stay home.

That is not how a society gets through a pandemic, no way, no how. If you were in charge, millions of people would die. But they'd "Have their freedom to choose for themselves." So there's that.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Tesla refused to close the Fremont plant and told workers they were essential because they were providing transportation [1]. Musk has also said that the virus response has been overblown. [2] Musk is now saying that they well produce ventilators, although they have no design, no experience in medical devices, and a factory that makes cars, not ventilators... [1] https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a31748353/tesla-alam…

This would be coming from the SpaceX manufacturing facilities, and doesn't SpaceX make life support systems for their Crew Dragon spacecraft?

They do. Elon mentions this in a thread between himself and the mayor of NYC on Twitter.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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First off, don't start any conversation by telling someone to stop thinking contrarian thoughts. Secondly, the risk of dying from the coronavirus from working at or going into a small video game shop is negligible. You are far more likely to get it at Walmart or a grocery store. Are you calling for the closure of these stores too? Thirdly, you are painting GameStop as some faceless entity. People work there. These pe…

You think the risk is negligible. The rest of the world does not. Good for you being a "contrarian," but neither you nor Gamestop get to act on each and every one of your contrarian thoughts. Lots of people, if left to decide these matters for themselves, decide that the risks of their behaviour are negligible. That's why Spring Break is crowded. But you aren't even framing this correctly. It is not just about the ri…

Again, learn how to have a conversation without the condescending attitude. This is a complex issue with multiple variables and costs. You are not automatically right because you agree with the mob. A cursory reading of history should make this obvious, but unfortunately that seems too much to ask of people nowadays. They'd rather spend their time looking down at those with the "wrong" opinion.

> You think the risk is negligible. The rest of the world does not.

The catch here is that people are really short-sighted evolved primates. While shutting down the entire world will indeed stop the virus, it is already having an innumerable number of unpredictable effects like putting millions out of work, crashing the economy, diverting resources from other medical issues, to name a few.

The statistics are pretty unconvincing so far, to me personally, in order to justify a long-term shutdown.

> This is not an abstract argument, we are watching thousands of people die from this, and we believe that community transmission comes from otherwise healthy people passing it around long before they have any symptoms at all, and those carriers need not die to cause the deaths of others.

Millions die from obesity, car accidents, war, and the regular flu every year. Where's your outrage for that? Why are you not calling for the shutdown of McDonald's? The restriction of car use? These are vastly bigger issues that are actually controllable.

As I said above: the actions being taken now will have consequences which have only just begun.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Bahahaha that's about as likely as pigs flying. "You were instructed to keep the store open, but were unable to perform your job-required duties because you got arrested attempting to do so, therefore you are fired. Request to pay your legal fees is denied."

And you were fired with cause so no unemployment insurance because America is barbaric.

Due to current circumstances, I believe it unlikely unemployment insurance claims will denied in this situation.

If you work at GameStop, call the local authorities, get a copy of the police report, go home and file for unemployment.

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#107

GameStop is going out of business. This is a last ditch attempt to fend that off. And I would hope that any cop in an area with lockdowns in place would simply say, "Nice piece of paper. You're closing."

Let GameStop run out of business. The company has had it coming for years, and I'm hoping coronavirus is the reason it finally dies.

Re: GameStop: We Can Stay Open During Lockdowns Because We're 'Essential Retail'

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Excuse me, but let's stop this line of thinking right now. No business has a right to do whatever it thinks it must to survive. Tobacco companies don't get to do whatever they think they must to survive. If a restaurant is in trouble, it doesn't get to tell its employees to speed up service by not washing their hands, nor does it get to hire employees under the table for cash to avoid payroll taxes or minimum wage, n…

“While being good members of society” is an argument often used to justify suppression of free speech and other authoritarian tactics.

I'm pretty sure free speech being used the justify making society worse is the bigger more real danger we experience in the present day.

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This is a short-sighted view. If GameStop closes, they will go out of business. If they go out of business, these employees will lose their jobs. I see no reason why a GameStop employee can't just quit or refuse to come to work if he/she fears getting infected.

> I see no reason why a GameStop employee can't just quit or refuse to come to work if he/she fears getting infected. You see no reason? I'll give you one: In most jurisdictions, if your employer lays you off or closes their doors, you can apply for some kind of benefits, e.g. EI up here in Canada. But if you quit your job on principle, you don't get benefits and have to live on whatever savings you've amassed workin…

Sure, this is a legitimate concern. But I don't think black-and-white thinking is really the answer here. There are solutions in between shut everything down and keep it all open.

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I probably missed a few news cycles, but what Musk and Bezos do you would class as disgusting during this crisis? I heard Tesla is going to produce ventilators?

I used to be Elon's fanboy until very recently, but I can't really explain his recent coronavirus tweets, saying that the panic is dumb, children don't get it, or that it'll all be over by April. He's the last person on the planet I'd suspect of not getting the basic math behind the infection, or the basic facts of it.

panic != concern. The point is abridged, but valid.
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