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Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they? Do they pay you back when your ISP can't provide enough bandwidth for 4K? How much is 4K on top of regular Netflix service? Is it worth worrying about?

Why would they? Because they charge extra for it and they're themselves have stopped providing this service.

>and they're themselves have stopped providing this service //

Is it them, or is it overselling by ISPs?

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Interesting counterpoint to the "broadband is so much better in Europe" trope. Unless of course we are under strain here in the US as well....

I had the exact same thought. I was under the impression that Europe had much more robust broadband infrastructure and a surplus of capacity, compared to the US.

Finland at least has uncapped mobile connections up the wazoo. Also the highest amount of mobile data per head in 2016 at least: https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/11448.jpeg

Edit: same for 2018 as well: https://www.statista.com/statistics/956188/monthly-mobile-da...

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#75

Makes you think, how much further we could stretch things if we were all using the Nims/C/C++ of the world instead of the Ruby's. Please don't immediately flame, I'm just saying objectively, we could stretch hardware out much further. What do you guys think about this?

I don't think C++ generates more efficient packets than Ruby.....

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#76
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they? Do they pay you back when your ISP can't provide enough bandwidth for 4K? How much is 4K on top of regular Netflix service? Is it worth worrying about?

Why would they? Because they charge extra for it and they're themselves have stopped providing this service.

The EU commission stopped them providing 4k, not netflix

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Does anyone know of public ISP dashboards that show used/total capacity on their network in terms of customer usage? I'm sure its trivial for an internal employee to pull up solarwinds or whatever, but I'd be curious to see if these ISPs are merely running above normal, running hot, barely hanging on with intermittent "isp brownouts" etc. This is probably a pipe dream but not gonna get any questions answered if I don…

Here are the AMS-IX stats: https://www.ams-ix.net/ams/documentation/total-stats

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#78
It is kind of unrelated to this, but I am asking maybe somebody could help me. Do you guys know where can I read and learn more about the details of the Netflix network? I looked at their technical blog, but I wanted something more detailed and technical. Is there something like Netflix research papers (e.g. Google published Bigtable IIRC).

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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post #9

Interesting counterpoint to the "broadband is so much better in Europe" trope. Unless of course we are under strain here in the US as well....

I had the exact same thought. I was under the impression that Europe had much more robust broadband infrastructure and a surplus of capacity, compared to the US.

On average, yes, probably. But both the US and Europe have areas (especially rural areas) with very poor coverage, and in much of Europe most people are staying at home at the moment, to a much greater extent than in the US.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Is this for the entirety of Europe? Because I imagine we're not having any issues with this in Finland.

It's a made up problem. In Germany, journalists asked the network providers and they said everything is fine. Such a ridiculous and pointless thing to do by the EU. Especially since all the apps drop the quality automatically anyway if the connection is slow.

Here in Berlin my DSL connection has been awful since the social distancing began. And many of my friends have complained of similar problems. Frequent disconnections, broken up zoom calls. Though ironically the streaming has been fine from both Netflix & Amazon.
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