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Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#42

Are there any illustrations of the volumes of traffic that are being sent through core networks for netflix? I was under the impression the vast majority of traffic was served at the edge.

This question turned up a few hours ago over here [0]. Apparently some ISPs are perversely hostile to peering. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22627764

They are incentivized to attempt to charge for paid peering. It’s not that perverse, unless you like the internet going fast more than you like money.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#43
post #9

Interesting counterpoint to the "broadband is so much better in Europe" trope. Unless of course we are under strain here in the US as well....

I had the exact same thought. I was under the impression that Europe had much more robust broadband infrastructure and a surplus of capacity, compared to the US.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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post #9

Interesting counterpoint to the "broadband is so much better in Europe" trope. Unless of course we are under strain here in the US as well....

Isn't the trope "broadband is better somewhere else" for most places? Anecdotally, most people I know complain about the connection where they live.

There should be a mandate that all new buildings should have Fibre Optic cables laid out just like electronics wires and Water pipes.

Or even just a separate pipe for either Ethernet or Fibre Cables.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#45
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the trope "broadband is better somewhere else" for most places? Anecdotally, most people I know complain about the connection where they live.

Europeans seem pretty proud of their Internet, at least relative to the US, for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22631036

As a European, I'm quite happy with my Internet connections.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

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post #9

Interesting counterpoint to the "broadband is so much better in Europe" trope. Unless of course we are under strain here in the US as well....

I pay $30 for 250/100 and i live 20 minutes outside a town if 120k in a small community of 25 houses, about 7 km from the nearest store of any kind.

Is that competitive? I have no idea. I could however chose from around 10 ISPs that all have to compete in the network, which I understand is quite rare on the other side of the pond.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#47

Does it mean they’ll pay me back for the 4K package?

Why would they? Do they pay you back when your ISP can't provide enough bandwidth for 4K? How much is 4K on top of regular Netflix service? Is it worth worrying about?

Why would they? Because they charge extra for it and they're themselves have stopped providing this service.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#48

Makes you think, how much further we could stretch things if we were all using the Nims/C/C++ of the world instead of the Ruby's. Please don't immediately flame, I'm just saying objectively, we could stretch hardware out much further. What do you guys think about this?

This about network bandwidth capacity, not server hardware load. Netflix is going to send the same bytes over the network regardless of what language it's using for the server code.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#49

Makes you think, how much further we could stretch things if we were all using the Nims/C/C++ of the world instead of the Ruby's. Please don't immediately flame, I'm just saying objectively, we could stretch hardware out much further. What do you guys think about this?

Sounds like an ISP bandwidth issue, the bottleneck is the network not the cpu.

Re: Netflix to cut streaming quality in Europe for 30 days

#50

Does it mean they’ll pay me back for the 4K package?

You know, right now is not a time to be thinking about your ability to get the luxury service and goods you're used to. It's about us all staying alive and keeping each other alive and making it through this. Maybe you have to do with a little bit less than you're used to, maybe you don't think it's fair because you've paid $5 extra for your extra stream quality. None of us think what's happening is fair, but we have to accept it for what it is. Today isn't yesterday. Get your head straight.
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